The Dusseldorf Mega Post - Part 1

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So for those that dont know, myself and RickP of this parrish flew out to experience BOOT - the German Boat Show in Dusseldorf. This was a first for me, but Rick had been out a few years ago when he bought his current Elling so had a little more expectation than me, who just didnt know what to expect.

We decided to make the most of the time available and fly out latre Saturday, get the hire car to the hotel and have a full day at the show on the Sunday. Getting into Messe is increadibly simple, a bit like getting into the NEC as it is a purpose built exhibition site. Parking was extensive, and very well organised. You are directed to a space, where a guy in a florry vest takes the €6 parking charge for the day and gives you a card with your parking lot and space number already noted down - now thats German efficiency. Busses every three minutes transport you without fuss to one of four entrances (we chose the East entrance as it was closest to the Mobos and other kit) and a two day pass is €23 per person.

Messe, the exhibition centre is absolutely huge but being spread over such a vast area its difficult to judge the scale at first but it is BIG. The halls are split up into sections, and while there are 15 in total there are quite a few devoted to holidays, diving, windsurfing etc etc so its easy to weedle out the bits you dont want to see. In total there were 7 halls devoted to boats that we wanted to see, plus a couple more that had stuff in we werent bothered about (bow riders, pechepromoades etc etc).

So, on to the main event and pictures of the boats. I will split this up a bit to make those of us with the less than epic BB connections not wait to long, plus at some point Rick will get a few of his shots up as well.

I have taken about 200 pics, and I think Rick got the same so we should have a good spread and I hope we got all the requests done:)

The first boat we went to see was the Catana 41 catamaran as Rick is thinking of maybe going this way in the future and wanted to look at a few multihulls. This was the first dissapointment as the Catana turned out to be the only cat there - Lagoon, FP and Prvilege had all opted just to have small booths and as we went around the show later it became obvious that there had clearly been a few casualties as there was quite a bit of spare floor space in most halls.

The view looking down on the first hall (number 15) about 10 minutes after the doors opened.

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The Catana was quite an impressive bit of kit, and I am assured by those who know quite quick too.

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I didnt get any more pics of this but Rick was happily snapping away so there will be some more kicking around if required.

We then decided to head on a quick tour to get the main highlights locations noted so we could plan where to go over the next few days.

First boat we wanted to get a good look at was the new Bavaria 46 designed by BMW Designworks USA. We found it (with a host of other bavs) and were able to get on board for a good poke around.

It certainly cuts and impressive silhouette and is a big departure for the brand.

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I like the high sided and edgy design, but I think Bavaria will have to conceed that Sealine got there first on this one. There are some nice details though

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The lids on the sink and bin have magnets set into them and in the GRP recess so that there is a bit of resistance to them flying off underway.

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Though there are some stupid points as well. Any suggestions how to get the RIB into the water without mucking up the teak on the swim platform?

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And this oversized mast is a littel ott:

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The deck does give enough room for 8-10 including the helm, with a bigger than it looks table to the stern above the garage and a big sunpad come seat to port.

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Down below, the 46 boasts three cabins and a good sized saloon as promised. That said, the trade of is the two aft cabins are on the small side but would be fine for kids cabins on a longer run, or for a few adults over a weekend.

Saloon:
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Starboard Guest Cabin:
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Port Guest Cabin:
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Master berth:
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Master Heads:
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The design is good, different and wont suit all but does bring something new to the market. the biggest issue is the fir and finish. the floor in the saloon is awefull, white boards secured with visible alan bolds and some of the joinery is a little flimsy. Now, this is liekly to be hull 1 rushed for the show, but it was presented as factiry ready and gets the 'must do better' mark.

Pic of the saloon floor to illustrate:
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All in all and interesting boat, and a marked departure from the norm for Bavaria. At €300,000 plus Tax it looks like good value too (well, it will do if the £ ever recovers).

Next up on the interesting boats list was the Marex 370 - some requests here I think - and it has just been awarded European Motorboat of the year 2009. This is a centre cockpit style boat, a popular idea with our sailing friends for years but seldome seems to make it to Mobos.

A fine looking craft with a big afte cabin, big forward cabins all seperated by a saloon come wheel house, all wrapped up in wide side decks and Norweigen build quality.

Looks like I managed not to take a shot of the outside ( though Rick might have) so for now you will have to make do with the stern shot showing the aft cabins panoramic wrap around window and the excellent access to the side decks

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The overall fit and finish appeared to be excellent. I liked the design as its a bit out there, and would suit the UK climate.

The same window from the inside:

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Atop the aft cabin is a nice big sunpad

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and the saloon has a nice sofa to port with the helm to starboard

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Forward of the centre saloon is the second and third cabins, plus the head. The forward cabin has a centre line double bed

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And while there is a mid berth, its probably strictly for kids or for storing gear:

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The heads is a good size, but there is only one though it has a seperate shower stall

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with excellent wide side decks, a good hard top and economical single engine power from either 330Hp or 370Hp on shaft this boat would be good for families in the UK on either inland or coastal waterways.

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There is a Marex dealer in the uk, but apparently they havent bought a boat for 5 years so if anyone fancies one you might have to buy abroad.

Oh, and it had a funky set up on the shaft too!

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Thats the first two boats, and there is loads more but this takes ages to type up and SWMBO is muttering something about not seeing me for three days.

More later.
 
I liked the look of the Marex. Thanks for posting. The scandanavians excel at quality and sensible classic styling that has endless appeal.
 
Marex is nice lovely boat, interesting how the Seatorque looks

I see the Bavaria looks ok, not impressed but not dissapointed, interior quality looks improved too, I hope they resolved the other weak issues too...
dont tell me is this the only boats you see in Dusseldorf, and then you tell me I am Italian blind folded ehhh
 
Thanks Jez,

I really appreciate that, did the staff on the Marex stand have much to say about the Seatorque drives?

For those that don't already know, the funky thing on the shafts that you can see in the photos is a bronze housing that contains needle roller bearings, the shaft runs in a fixed oil filled tube held in the P bracket with 5200/sika. This results in less noise/vibration and more hp at the prop with less maintenance than a standard shaft, you can also pull the shafts in a matter of minutes and they will still be aligned when you put them back in.
 
Excellent stuff Jez. Looking forward to further reports
 
Great pics of the Marex /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif There is a brief Norwegian report with pics here

and more pics if you click "Se vår bildespesial!" at the end of the piece.
 
I agree that it is a lovely looking boat but where are the 'new solutions'? To me it looks like an updated version of the aft cabin/centre cockpit concept which has been used for years on some Scandi and Brit boats
 
ok not really new, an evolution of the species more then new solutions
I like the concept aft from the bathing platform too, with one taking you direct to the side deck and the other in the cockpit, seen this but in bigger boats too, and last railing on the toe rail then on the side, apart Windy this is hard to come by from Noridic countries
on small boats -25 ft this makes sense but not on this size
for e.g. the Westline 34 was good looking, ok too much a photocopy of a Targa 40 but the design was ok, but this solution would really stop me from also seeing the boat if I was interested
 
More pics coming tonight. I did see some Italian yachts PY and liked them too /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Some interesting dutch stuff and we had a good poke around the Dutch Falcon - 20m, 4 IPS 600 and made of Metal!
 
Thanks jrb for posting all that. That Bavaria is intriguing. Looks really fantastic imho on the outside, stunning. But what a dull dark disappointing interior with nasty fittings and woodwork -I couldn't see anything likeable about the insides

Look forward to more pics if you get time, thanks
 
Nice pics - but why not give a link to view this expensive window-shopping instead of taking up the space?

And I bet 'rickp of this parrish' (sic) is squirming at your illiteracy - he deserves better!

PS the Spellcheck button is for yoohoo!
 
Na, doesn't whet appetite at all. I think it's a beautiful exterior but still a ghastly dark dated interior with cheap looking finishes and fittings. No hard for them to fix if they put their minds to it and perhaps took a trip out of Giebelstadt now and again :-)
 
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