The best laid plans.

dralex

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We didn't get to France for our holiday, despite the best laid plans. Here's the run down.

Plan A- If the weather was settled and nice, then I would leave for Brest on the weekend before out holiday and leave the boat there. The return flights were booked.
Problem- family wedding in the way and of course the weather was beautiful with perfect winds for a reach across.

Plan B- leave at 0000 on Wednesday before flights for family to fly out, leaving us 48 hours to get there.
Problem- it was the blackest night ever with F6 SSW/SW winds, and no hint of the bit of west I was hoping for. I had 2 strong, experienced, but not regular passage making sailors with me. Sea sickness hit them hard, and despite medication got no better. The galley was full of vomit ( sorry skipper, but if I have a bucket, it will make me puke more!!??) We were sailing well, but not really making any west. We could have made St Peter Port, but this would have been useless in terms of my family joining us and me having to pay for crew to get back. I was knackered having been on watch since joining the boat. It was a hard decision to turn back, but in the end we sailed 90NM from Torbay to Dartmouth! ( Normally 14NM).

Lessons learnt.

-We should have gone when the weather was perfect for the crossing.
-Despite having experienced sailors as crew, I still don't think I had stressed enough how long the passage was going to be, despite going though all the charts and navigation with them.
-The wind will always come from the perfect wrong direction and not give you a break.
-Perhaps long passages should be started in daylight to allow crew time to acclimatise to the motion of the boat while being able to see a horizon.
-In future, I will not take no for an answer when offering people sea sickness treatment before they are sick. I will also insist that vomiting is done over the side, in the heads or in a bucket, not the galley sink!
-I will try to do some night sailing with crew before doing something longer.

The Solution

Returned home and was a generally grumpy b****** for a few days waiting for the UK weather to improve and perhaps do some UK sailing with wife and toddler. It didn't improve, therefore booked a late deal on an AWB in Turkey for a week. It was lovely- I'd forgotten what it was like to be overpowered and have a fixed 3 blade prop and hot water.
 
Glad it had a happy ending, but sounds like a horror trip, largely because of your sea-sick crew. How selfish do you have to be to throw up in the galley rather than a bucket, when that effectively rules out hot drinks, food, etc for the rest of the crew for the duration. Where did you find such an inconsiderate b*stard? Were they really that experienced? I mean, if they didn't appreciate the length of the crossing despite being shown it on charts, etc, sounds like they weren't really up to the job. I think you'd have found the trip to be a slog, but otherwise ok if you'd had a couple of decent crew with you, rather than these liabilities - perhaps that should be the main lesson. I hope you made him clear the sink!
 
He's actually a good friend who can sail well and is very useful on a boat, but has limited passage making experience. I think the mistake was mine in possibly expecting too much from him. Yes, he did clear the sink. One of the reasons for turning back was that the galley and saloon were cold, damp and stinking of vomit. I normally survive long trips as long as I can make hot food and drinks. The other bloke has done multiple channel crossings, had done everything right and was even taking Stugeron for 24 hours before the trip, but was still struck down. Fortunately, he always puked over the leward deck.
 
Ooops - apologies if I've insulted one of your friends! But writing off the galley for the trip is pretty poor behaviour - even for someone suffering from the dreaded mal-de-mer.

Incidentally, as a doctor, are you familiar with the motion-sickness patches Scopolamine? Only available on prescription but awesomely effective with no apparent side-effects? I did a delivery trip recently in nasty weather - three of us on board. Skipper - reputation for prodigious vomiting in bad weather. Used a patch. Fine. Me - thought I didn't need anything. Started feeling very rough. Slapped on a patch, hoping it wasn't too late. Fine. Other crew - used 'old faithful' seasick remedy - Sturgeron or some suchlike. Was sick as a dog.
 
I had scopolamine patches with me and put one on him, but no result. You can get them over the counter at Boots now. It was a pretty bad night because of the total darkness and no horizon. I'm normally fine, but still took a Stugeron early on just in case.
 
Alex

Sorry to hear you didn't make it to Southern Brittany as planned, but don't give up on it because it really is worth it. FWIW, and we have done the trip from Dartmouth to Camaret many many times in both a heavy W33 ketch with a 50HP motor and in our current 41 foot cruiser/racer, we would not set off with a headwind above F4/5 unless it was forecast to drop or at least free off pretty soon. It is 144mls from Dartmouth to Camaret and 120mls to the top of Chenal Du Four, 120mls of hard upwind sailing wind over the deck will be up at F6 and the sea has all of that distance as fetch. The trip is much better when the wind shifts west as it tends to do, then you can sail on one tack and about 60 degs to the true wind, more comfy and much faster and the bonus too is that the visibility will also probably be better than when it was SW.

I'm afraid my obsession is greater than yours (so far, I'll give you time /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) and family know better than to get married, give birth, move house or even die between Easter and November, at least not if they expect our presence. Good forecasts are not to be missed!

Robin
 
One just can\'t the crew any more

When I was a lad people would have bitten my hand off for a trip as easy as that. Now what happens loads of up-chucking and generally not stiff upper lipping. The youth of today.

Sounds like a tough trip, better luck next time. I'm intested to see that you can buy Scopaderm across the counter now. Last time we asked our quack for a dose for Liz he said that he didn't believe in prescribing performance enhancing sports drugs.
 
Bad luck, you are in good company I'm sure. Glad to hear you had a good sail in the Med. anyway. To this day the Channel Islands are referred to with the prefix "mythical", 'cos of the number of times we have successfully got there. Second only to the "Mythical St Alban's head inshore passage" really.

Re throwing up, a bucket is better than the lee rail, in case the patient passes out and falls overboard. At least with a bucket they are lying in the middle of the cockpit where you can tend to them (a kick in the ribs and "Oi! where's my fried egg butty?" often revives, unless its SWMBO of course.)
 
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It IS there honestly, but your Liz is probably a bit beamy to squeeze through it! You have to go right inshore and clip the end within teabag throwing distance, otherwise just ignore the race and just let the tide carry you though and spit you out the other side. You might like to pull the hatch shut though...

Robin
 
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