boatone
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Thames woes will continue unless ............
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Tam Lin
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They drain it and turn it into a motorway! 
Sorry!
Sorry!oldgit
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The Thames National Park.
Why not apply for some EU funding, in the past they have provided funding to take on socio-economic enviomental projects in deprived areas that local politicians dare not address due to partisan resistance..........Oops sorry...just remembered..
Why not apply for some EU funding, in the past they have provided funding to take on socio-economic enviomental projects in deprived areas that local politicians dare not address due to partisan resistance..........Oops sorry...just remembered..
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No Regrets
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Re: The Thames National Park.
Yeah. More likely to get help from Syria :encouragement:
Why not apply for some EU funding, in the past they have provided funding to take on socio-economic enviomental projects in deprived areas that local politicians dare not address due to partisan resistance..........Oops sorry...just remembered..
Yeah. More likely to get help from Syria :encouragement:
No Regrets
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Aaaaanyway.
Discuss what?
I had a good year on the Thames. Adequate moorings, facilities and working locks, and usually in convoy of two to four vessels, or during club events more.
Not bothered about lock-keepers these days unless it's busy, in which case they have been there.
Either you go looking for problems and ruin your life with them, or just get in the boat and enjoy it as best possible, which is pretty good IMHO :encouragement:
Discuss what?
I had a good year on the Thames. Adequate moorings, facilities and working locks, and usually in convoy of two to four vessels, or during club events more.
Not bothered about lock-keepers these days unless it's busy, in which case they have been there.
Either you go looking for problems and ruin your life with them, or just get in the boat and enjoy it as best possible, which is pretty good IMHO :encouragement:
blues-n-twos
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More water at low tide at Richmond lock please. I scrapped my new props :ambivalence:
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Outinthedinghy
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They drain it and turn it into a motorway!
I suggested this in a sort of joking way to a friend yesterday. We were discussing road transport around east London and how it is impressive that "tall ships" still get priority over modern road traffic meaning it is not possible to simply put a road bridge over black wall tunnel to help with the traffic flows.
Its nice that boats get priority - I suppose there must be some old law or something about it.
Anyway I suggested culverting the River and converting the top to a roadway with cycle routes etc maybe light rail as well.
Seems to make sense !
Kurrawong_Kid
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Unless an Act of Parliament grants permission the ancient right of way prevails, I believe! The obvious answer is a lifting bridge with tidal opening times; similar to the impressive millennium bridge on the Tyne. Start fund raising because there will be many more regions queuing up for state aid in the U.K. to offset the obvious bias for funding for the south east. e.g. Cross rail; London Bridge Station etc. Or how about campaigning to have HS2 monies diverted to it? They would find the money in the Netherlands I.e Erasmus Bridge in Rotterdam.
Outinthedinghy
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Yes the right of way will prevail and the culverting option is a joke I am genuinely interested to know why the right of way for tall ships ends at London bridge. I know the history but as there is no longer any trade (other than charters) coming that far up the River I find it intriguing that something stops the building of a fixed bridge further down to accommodate modern road traffic flows.
Planning permission has been granted for a cycleway bridge between rothethithe and canary wharf but this will be a lifting bridge I believe.
prof pat pending
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I can't really argue with any of that...we had a great year too
The only niggle that I have is that not all of the facilities in the EA's cruising guide are available where they say they are. Surely it can't be hard to make a small booklet (PDF) representative of what actually exists.
Phill
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Yup, we've had a really good year on the Thames too. We spent more time on the river, travelled further than previous years, spent more time sharing our hobby with friends and the weather even seemed better than other years. Locks were mostly manned, but if not, push button operation is so easy compared to winding. Really looking forward to next year as from January, I no longer work on Saturdays.:encouragement:
Pump-Out
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Old London Bridge was in place hundreds of years before the wharves got really busy in the 17/18/19 C's. So all the primary wharves were to seaward of that. The City of London where not going to prevent trade coming to their doorstep by allowing a bridge further down (even if they had had the engineering skills to do so).
It's not only tall ships that come upstream. Cruise ships, warships, even a traditional Thames Barge has quite an air draft. This how high the QE2 Bridge was built to carry the M25 over the river.
Look how little air draft there is at Westminster Bridge at High Water. Any bridge below Tower is going to cause a hiccup.
Cashbuyer
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Get rid of the paper licence and go paper free as per vehicle licensing. And be able to fill out the initial form online. And be able to pay by card online and not have wait for a phone call from the EA which may never come.
Perhaps the EA still have tea ladies and a typing pool...
Perhaps the EA still have tea ladies and a typing pool...
oldgit
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slightfreddrift.
Right of passage..
In the charter signed at Runnymeade.believe one of the subjects mentioned was that that nobody (inc the king or his land owning chums ) was allowed to impede the navigation of rivers by vessels attempting to ply their trade.Various fish weirs and other works constructed by landowners were being put in place preventing cargo being transhiped from one town to the next,presumablely without a nifty little toll being paid.
Think this has continued down the centuries with various disputes on and off regards canals and rivers.
Think this also applies to the Kings Highway,it is unlawful to prevent a traveller from going about his legal business. ?
The charter was of course immediately ignored by the powers that be.
(33) All fish-weirs shall be removed from the Thames, the Medway, and throughout the whole of England, except on the sea coast.
Think the "North" does get mention but mainly to do with fighting among themselves ?
Right of passage..
In the charter signed at Runnymeade.believe one of the subjects mentioned was that that nobody (inc the king or his land owning chums ) was allowed to impede the navigation of rivers by vessels attempting to ply their trade.Various fish weirs and other works constructed by landowners were being put in place preventing cargo being transhiped from one town to the next,presumablely without a nifty little toll being paid.
Think this has continued down the centuries with various disputes on and off regards canals and rivers.
Think this also applies to the Kings Highway,it is unlawful to prevent a traveller from going about his legal business. ?
The charter was of course immediately ignored by the powers that be.
(33) All fish-weirs shall be removed from the Thames, the Medway, and throughout the whole of England, except on the sea coast.
Think the "North" does get mention but mainly to do with fighting among themselves ?
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