Thames Visitor Moorings - new trial

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Press Release received from EA this morning:
18 November 2016 DT/072/16
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New arrangements to ‘improve customer experience and compliance’ at visitor moorings on non-tidal River Thames

The Environment Agency is to test new arrangements formanaging its short-stay visitor moorings along the non-tidal River Thames.

During a 12 month trial starting today (Wednesday 16November), Thames Visitor Moorings, (TVM) a private company run by boaters for boaters, will take over responsibility for managing bookings and collecting fees at 21 of the 22 visitor mooring sites currently operated by the Environment Agency.

The change will bring significant benefits for boaters and the Environment Agency alike.

Boaters will be able to register their arrival (a condition of use) online or by phone at any time of day, and pay any fees using a debit or credit card, or through Paypal. At present, they must register their arrival with the duty lock keeper, who can also take cash payments for any fees due. This can cause problems however if the lock keeper is off-duty, working off-site, busy with other duties, or if the boater doesn’t have any cash to hand.

For the Environment Agency, the new arrangements are expected to boost the income it receives from its visitor moorings and improve its ability to monitor usage and take enforcement action if necessary.

Nick McKie-Smith, the Environment Agency’s Waterways Operations Enforcement Manager for the non-tidal River Thames said: “I’ve got high expectations of this pilot. We’re using a first rate provider who really understands the needs of boaters, and ourselves.
I’m confident the new arrangements will hugely improve the customer experience and compliance at our visitor moorings, and increase our revenue. It’s good news for boaters, and for us.

The Environment Agency and others provide short-stay visitor moorings to facilitate touring on the Thames. Generally, they allow boaters to stay for up to 3 days for a nominal charge to enjoy the facilities and attractions of the local area, before moving on to another location and freeing up the space for someone else to use.

Unfortunately, some boaters stay considerably longer than the maximum allowed, preventing their fellow boaters from using the moorings for their intended purpose.

The Environment Agency introduced new ‘car park’ style terms and conditions at its visitor mooring sites in 2013 and this has vastly improved compliance. These additional new arrangements will improve the management of these sites even further.

Rex Walden is the owner/operator of Thames Visitor Moorings. A residential boater and former chair of theResidential Boat Owners’ Association (RBOA), Rex is also a member of the Thames Navigation Users Forum (TNUF) – a group representing boaters’ interests in regular discussions with the Environment Agency.

Rex said: “I use visitor moorings most of the year. I share the challenges and frustrations of boaters but also understand those of the Environment Agency and the wider riversidecommunity. TVM is born out of my experience. It is genuinely ‘by boaters for boaters’ and is intended to make life easier for all of those who use the river and the organisations who manage it.

I hope our activity will help support the development of new visitor moorings being established and an increase in the number of boats using the river.

Ends

Notes to Editor
The Environment Agency is the navigation authority for the non-tidal Thames, 135 miles of navigable waterway from Cricklade in Wiltshire, near the river’s source, to Teddington in southeast London.
More information on Thames Visitor Moorings is available at www.thamesvisitormoorings.co.uk
The Environment Agency offers short stay visitor moorings at 22 locations, listed here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/river-thames-bridges-locks-and-facilities-for-boaters
Clear signage at the mooring sites set out the conditions of their use. The only change to the existing conditions under the pilot scheme is that users must register their arrival with Thames Visitor Moorings, online or by phone, rather than with the local lock keeper. All other existing conditions and charges remain the same. At most sites, mooring for up to one day is free, all or part of a second or third day is £5 for each day, the daily rate from then on is £100.
By mooring at any one of the sites, boaters are entering into a contractual agreement to abide by these conditions, which are enforceable under civil proceedings. Any enforcement action will be carried out by NSL Ltd, under existing arrangements, but under the pilot, Thames Visitor Moorings will assist Environment Agency staff to carry out spot checks to identify any non-compliance, details of which will be passed by the Environment Agency to to NSL Ltd for them to act on.
 
I can see at some sites this will work but at others it could just be a nightmare, I will reserve judgement until I have tried it :(
But the whole principle of booking moorings seems wrong, I've never booked a mooring on the non-tidal Thames in 40 years!
 
I can't help but think this is far from well thought out before it has been rolled out.
Although I agree there is a problem with over-stayers on certain moorings, is this really the answer?
Looking at the site, you cannot pre-book a mooring, some of the listed moorings are free for 24 hours but you can't register your arrival so how do you prove you have only been there 24hrs or less?
As you cannot book a mooring in advance, register and payment takes place once moored. subject to phone reception of course.

I guess there will be an app for this too.?
 
Doubt this will change anything.

You can't pre book, so you still have to take a chance.

Registering your arrival is voluntary - those with honourable intentions will always go and find the mooring administrator anyway, and those intending to overstay won't register anything with anyone!!

What enforcement powers do they have for overstayers?
 
Got to be worth a trial go.
The problem with pre booking is the usual one to be found at St Kats.
Folks pre book a mooring and then decide not to go but fail to "unbook".
The next chap to check the mooring online finds it "full" and avoids that location leaving an empty berth.

Keep it simple,turn up,moor,register your presence and cough up.
Would be nice if you could log in and find where moorings are free in your next destination.
Would be very useful for some folks to be able to find out where certain boats are.........and avoid them. :):):).
 
I'm not convinced.

I suspect the person running it is more interested in placing NB's and barges rather than Cruisers, the company isn't actually incorporated yet and you're stuffed if you have no phone signal and no lock-keeper.

Fifteen minutes to contact them isn't a great deal of time on a windy rainy day either. The 'first day fine' for not calling won't be enforceable in court either as there is no fiscal loss, which the court will ask for to justify the fine.

It's a crock of sh*t, hastily thrown together by some idiot at the EA. :ambivalence:
 
Why not see if it works? If it is a success, would town/parish councils see merit in it where there are obvious problems - eg Pangbourne & Abingdon? Can't particularly see this is more barge/nb friendly than cruiser - in many ways barges/nb's are the overstayers so good to regulate them.
 
Why not see if it works? If it is a success, would town/parish councils see merit in it where there are obvious problems - eg Pangbourne & Abingdon? Can't particularly see this is more barge/nb friendly than cruiser - in many ways barges/nb's are the overstayers so good to regulate them.

Pangbourne and Abingdon currently free of charge, not sure how this scheme would help either they are just too popular.
 
The end is nigh. Soon to be buggered up for the rest of us thanks to the serial scroungers. The authorities can't deal with the real problem but think they can regulate the rest of us off the water. Meanwhile, the Teddington lock Slumboats continue to generate revenue for their NZ owner. They can't deal with the scruffy buggers who use the facilities all year round, living as cheaply as possible and chucking their shit overboard. You mugs on your moorings and in your marinas, who go to work to fund your hobby.................Please join me in a slow hand clap.
 
"Pangbourne and Abingdon currently free of charge, not sure how this scheme would help either they are just too popular."
Pangbourne max 24 hours (most barges & nb's appear to believe doesn't apply to them) Abingdon 4 days (or is it 5) max. If the EA scheme works, apply swinging fees to Pangbourne & Abingdon as well for overstayers.
Surely what we want is boats moving around, so there's a good chance of getting a mooring & not find barges and nb's monopolising the moorings for weeks on end.
 
"Pangbourne and Abingdon currently free of charge, not sure how this scheme would help either they are just too popular."
Pangbourne max 24 hours (most barges & nb's appear to believe doesn't apply to them) Abingdon 4 days (or is it 5) max. If the EA scheme works, apply swinging fees to Pangbourne & Abingdon as well for overstayers.
Surely what we want is boats moving around, so there's a good chance of getting a mooring & not find barges and nb's monopolising the moorings for weeks on end.

May make nice 'copy' - but neither of the above have anything to do with EA moorings, which - as I understand it is - for registering your arrival at EA moorings. It may be that the hope is to extend the scheme to 'other moorings' later. (I had previously use the word 'pre-booking' - its not, you arrive and then contact the system)

When we pass Pangbourne (usually in the week), I see no / little evidence of long overstayers, indeed they are often almost empty.

At Abingdon the town moorings - apart from the far downstream end appear to be occupied by genuine visitors, whereas those above the bridge were occupied by those boats that you dislike. However, they are not official moorings anyway.


(Edited to correct my factual error). I'm off to have a better look at the website....
 
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Last few seasons I have taken to photo'ing the longstaing barges/nb's at Pangbourne - last year both July then early and then late October. Have been tempted to post on here with dates. Clearly were several overstayers. Was a almost new Piper widebeam with a big for sale sign on for well over a week early October. At Abingdon, below the bridge the overstayers were a mixture of old cruisers (a Moonraker 36' being one) & nb's. The council man comes along and photo's daily and says it's mainly nb's he has to move on. Not sure what you mean by unofficial moorings above the bridge - last bit on SB bank before lock is unofficial but rest council moorings suely?

It seems to me the EA scheme may be flawed but it's better trying something than nothing. It it works roll it out elsewhere.
 
Last few seasons I have taken to photo'ing the longstaing barges/nb's at Pangbourne - last year both July then early and then late October. Have been tempted to post on here with dates. Clearly were several overstayers. Was a almost new Piper widebeam with a big for sale sign on for well over a week early October. At Abingdon, below the bridge the overstayers were a mixture of old cruisers (a Moonraker 36' being one) & nb's. The council man comes along and photo's daily and says it's mainly nb's he has to move on. Not sure what you mean by unofficial moorings above the bridge - last bit on SB bank before lock is unofficial but rest council moorings suely?

It seems to me the EA scheme may be flawed but it's better trying something than nothing. It it works roll it out elsewhere.

The Moonraker is a local and moves around the area regularly - I am given to understand he can be quite aggressive if pushed...
Above the bridge (again AFAIK) and on both sides are just bankside, there have never ? been any notices posted - so I assume that it's just a place 'where folks moor'. I've no idea who the riparian owner is for the lockside length is, but assume the swimming pool / Abbey side is the Council's.


Being pedantic it's not an EA scheme - but that EA have allowed TVM to propose and manage a scheme for a trial period. The website looks good and may achieve more than just collecting mooring fees. Certainly there's a lot more on the site and quite slick as well (but I guess I've been the only user today).
It's good to have a lot of other facilities listed on the site and if it helps to encourage new users to the River as well as empower locally moored boats to go a bit further than their local watering holes, then it's a success.

It pains me that so few boats venture out from their safe marinas; get the traffic up and perhaps EA might take some notice.
 
Oh dear found a bug already....if you do a "forgot password" - as long as you choose an email address registered it will let you do it regardless of who you are....

PLUS, journey calculator for a trip upstream from Hurley Lock to Marsh... Your Journey Time Calculated

Hurley Lock

Hambleden Lock - 3.66 Miles - 45 Mins
Marsh Lock - 3.24 Miles - 35 Mins
Your Journey Time: 01:20*
Your Journey Distance: 6.9 Miles


You would have to go some to do it in that time...
 
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