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[Rorythesailor]

Hundreds, maybe thousands of years will go by with the same questions being asked in classrooms and onboard practical examinations. Why do I need to learn how to navigate from a chart, when I can use my ipad or bring up an app on my phone?
The same question will forever enable the same answer.
Who is navigating this yacht?

 

[PCUK]

The answer is another question. What do I do when the Ipad fails?

 

[Stingo]

The answer is another question. What do I do when the Ipad fails?

Replace it with an Android tablet, of course

 

[Alex_Blackwood]

Hundreds, maybe thousands of years will go by with the same questions being asked in classrooms and onboard practical examinations. Why do I need to learn how to navigate from a chart, when I can use my ipad or bring up an app on my phone?
The same question will forever enable the same answer.
Who is navigating this yacht?

How do you know that?

 

[dunedin]

Hundreds, maybe thousands of years will go by with the same questions being asked in classrooms and onboard practical examinations. Why do I need to learn how to navigate from a chart, when I can use my ipad or bring up an app on my phone?
The same question will forever enable the same answer.
Who is navigating this yacht?

Were there yachts, let alone navigators on them, “thousands of years ago”? And did they have classrooms? Let alone iPads?
Certainly don’t think they will have iPads in thousands of years in the future. And there won’t be paper charts either.

What prompted this particular rant?

 

[[194224]]

.............. Why do I need to learn how to navigate from a chart, when I can use my ipad or bring up an app on my phone?
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Who is navigating this yacht?

What is it that your iPad has instead of charts?
Also do don't need to learn how to navigate at all. however if you do feel that it's something you'd like to do then charts in one form or another (paper/electronic) are something you might find to be quite handy.

 

[Pye_End]

Planning on paper charts is more efficient than just using a chart plotter for current position + COG to next waypoint, especially when cross tide for a number of hours/tides.

The ability to be able to manually navigating gives you an appreciation of what navigation involves (it is not just your current position), eg best use of tides, boat speed to get through tidal gates, best CTS. No doubt there are also electronic solutions to these as well, but rather prevalent.

 

[KompetentKrew]

 

[boomerangben]

Navigating the old fashioned way is fun and it’s quite satisfying. Just another potential source of joy in this wonderful hobby. If they didn’t teach as part of the syllabus, imagine how many would miss out on the wonderful world of manual navigation. I’d you’d learned it you can choose how you navigate

 

[LadyInBed]

Why do I need to learn how to navigate from a chart, when I can use my ipad or bring up an app on my phone?

Similar to truck drivers who follow their SatNav and end up stuck under bridges or can't get the lorry round a corner.

 

[lustyd]

Planning on paper charts is more efficient

It always makes me laugh when people who aren’t good at electronics say stuff like this. I find it deeply inefficient to have to drive to a chandler when I hit the edge of the paper chart. Even more so when I remember the chandler no longer keeps them in stock. On my laptop I can keep on scrolling until I’m back where I started at any level of zoom. Seems more efficient to me than a 5 foot high stack of paper charts.

 

[Pye_End]

It always makes me laugh when people who aren’t good at electronics say stuff like this. On my laptop I can keep on scrolling until I’m back where I started at any level of zoom.

Would be quite interested to know how you plot an accurate CTS in a cross tide situation on a tablet, for example.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Would be quite interested to know how you plot an accurate CTS in a cross tide situation on a tablet, for example.

Pretty much the same as you would on a paper chart.

 

[Pye_End]

Pretty much the same as you would on a paper chart.

Can you be more specific? The only way I can think of drawing multiple lines on an electronic chart is by creating a route. Only 1 route is ever active, so I don't think this would show up on my software if there is already an active route. Perhaps other systems are more flexible. On my Garmin 5" plotter it would take forever - definitely quicker and easier on paper for that.

On a chart you can draw lines/ clearing bearings / notes etc. and they will be there for as long as you want. Can't see that ability on either of the plotters I use.

Perhaps 'electronics only' and it is so easy to follow a route on a plotter that 'other' navigation goes out the window?

How do you do it, or don't you?

 

[PCUK]

It always makes me laugh when people who aren’t good at electronics say stuff like this. I find it deeply inefficient to have to drive to a chandler when I hit the edge of the paper chart. Even more so when I remember the chandler no longer keeps them in stock. On my laptop I can keep on scrolling until I’m back where I started at any level of zoom. Seems more efficient to me than a 5 foot high stack of paper charts.

If you had planned your voyage properly you wouldn't have fallen off the edge of the chart.

 

[Sandy]

Hundreds, maybe thousands of years will go by with the same questions being asked in classrooms and onboard practical examinations. Why do I need to learn how to navigate from a chart, when I can use my ipad or bring up an app on my phone?
The same question will forever enable the same answer.
Who is navigating this yacht?

You may find this post informative.

Trad navigation

Charts are quite modern.

 

[ctva]

What happens when the sat nav goes down?
Without an understanding of the principals you would be stuffed. Or lost.

 

[lustyd]

What happens when the sat nav goes down?
Without an understanding of the principals you would be stuffed. Or lost.

I can’t speak for everyone but personally if my mainplotter goes down I use the spare plotter, then the handheld, then either of my phones, tablet, or my two watches. What do you do if your compass fails?

 

[lustyd]

Would be quite interested to know how you plot an accurate CTS in a cross tide situation on a tablet, for example.

It’s different on different systems. Read the manual is a great start or get some training. Same as traditional charts really, there’s no substitute for learning.

 

[Sandy]

I can’t speak for everyone but personally if my mainplotter goes down I use the spare plotter, then the handheld, then either of my phones, tablet, or my two watches. What do you do if your compass fails?

Just wait until the poles swap, that should surprise a few people.