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Hi, i found an internet caff in vivero, in Gallicia, N spain. Thanks for all contributions, v helpful.

middayish friday i attempted to round cap ortega (the v northerly bit of the n spanish coast) but it was too much wind on the nose 25 knots, so turned and went back to Vivero, little twn up a river a few miles back. It,s a sort of Sim-City versipon of Salcombe, protected, high hills around. Got fuel from a tanker - 20 mins for 2700 litres must be our speed-fuelling record.

We share a dock with a local police boat, Rodman 58 with hamilton waterjets and open exhausts looks quite a beastie.

The slightly-hot 95 degrees instead of 85 engines are probly due to partially-seaweedy primary strainers, now sorted.

We have tramped round the town a few times, finally (today) finding the internet caf shut this am, so found a bar-caff for lunch ad watched ace GP with spanish types v pleased that Alonso (from near here i think?) won.

This marina is excellent. The HM came along after two nights (we failed to anchor in the muddy bay) and sed look sorr i am gonna have to charge you, cos yerkno, the police boat s behind you. So he´s charged us 20 euros for 3 nights.

In these transit type ports there are always other boats going along the way, so we got the dinghy out and beetled round to "penny oyster" 40 footer from hamble, nice folk, yank skipper is taking it on down the coast as the owners fly back. General consensus is that tonight is tenable but (for a sprint-type mobo) monday am will be more benign, tho still a bit swelly. The sailyu boats are obv more knackered as they will cop it early or late at 5-7 knots. One of the boats has been here for two weeks the blimmin wimps.

Magnum, yep, you are right it is easier on a ship, but tere are numerous stories of the boats going off the deck, and the type of ship plus your boat´s position on board is critical with regard to the condition of the thing at the other end. The exhaust from the ship can damage gelcoat so an al over wrap is essential for a nice new boat. As suncoast and others say, we got mightily mucked about by sevenstar who didn´t turn up until weeks after contract date and (illegaly, ireckon) held back a lot of money. Peter and May sound a lot more decent to deal with.

Otherwise of course it is quite a trip, worth doing. Last 90 miles of bscay was fairly lairy, only 9 knots possible on autopilt, so i hand-whammed the thing around the waves for an hour to get flatter water, then had a kip for the last hour as Mooseno1 brought it in. V bad news that he flew back after only one leg, and apart from having no camera it cuts our options for night passages - tho the south africans (two bright guys on a gap year who are wanting to build miles and a free trip to the med, and you can just shuttup about yer three blokes on a mobo, nicho....) seem fine on watch so i may get some kip on overnight legs.

Tomorrow am i will grind out to the swell. Inshore before dawn we can´t go fast with pot buoys etc, but it seems fairly clear so i will go stright N for a few miles from mouth f the river (buoys usually around headlands) then tack back SW in ythe westerly as dawn breaks. 350 miles to Cascais, i plan to land there on the fuel dock about midnight ready for "Tresh meel litroosh gasoleo, servash fevor". Or possibly leixoes for evening fuel then an overnight to gibraltar, not decided yet, got both plans in four independent gps´s ...

Does trazie know portuguese for "hi mr cascais fuel dock attendant- remeber how you got drenched in diesel last time we were here eh, that was dead funny, hee hee!"

Loads of forumite texts with weather are v useful. I had four sepret texts with 30 mins on friday advsing NOT to proceed around finisterre, v welcome, ta.

Incidentally, the actual moving bits of the trip is not actually meant t coincide with busiest forum times, it just seems that way.

By no means certain where we´ll be late friday when mrs tcm is sposed to join us, but it wil be either malaga OR Alicante OR Palma OR Barcelona OR Nice cos that´s where easyjet flies to, see?

cheers all.
 

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I spoke to TCM this morning (Monday) having had a look at meteo who were suggesting that Porto area is OK for a while but there's the prospect of another front coming to bash/soak the Atlantic Coast praps midweekish - so best press on South, if he can.

Seems he's struggling a bit in the very big NW swell, struggling to make 10 knots, nose dipping well into the seas. Not sure he'll be able to make the corner and may take refuge in La Coruna, delaying him yet again. But NW Swell hitting SW winds, may not be very pleasant at all.
 

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Been out of contact for a while, as txt service was down.

They are now heading south, and just about to call into Bayona (aka Baiona, just south of Vigo) to refuel.

Conditions now better
 

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excellent news

Ah if they've made it to Bayona it's gonna be plain sailing, lightening winds and seas. Excellent

Bayona is just above Oporto, so they're well past the nasty stuff at finnisterre
 

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The sea will now get flatter as time passes and as they go south. Worst bit was that top corner of Spain, but should be much easier going for them now. Excellent news. I texted this to him, and he's hoping to get to Gib by tomorrow nite he says.
 

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Was a [oh really!] forecasting that bit of trip, but kept telling him it would get better if he could get around corner and head south. Forecast for swell is that it will get worse on Wed, so he needs to crack on, as Zef had also told. If he makes if to Gib by tomorrow night, then he'll do fine. Forecasts for Med are good compared to outside
 

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Tanker of fuel wanted at Club de Mar Palma
Any telephone numbers anyone?

David Hanraths who used to work for Rodrigeuz in Portals Nous would have sorted
this but no longer works for Rodriguez, and I can't find his mobile. Doh!
Any ideas.

Mrs TCM
 

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Just called my contact in Portals and he says that Club de Mar will probably not allow a tanker to refuel. They do have there own fuel quay though.
 

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Couple of updates. At 6:50 this morning, Matt txted that past Lisbon. He did ask for some advice though
"Q-water temp guages show 95 but enginesw happy, no oil burn, good mpg etc. Other w temp guages show 78c(p) and 0 cos knackerd.Is 95 de oer? Or bolx, thrash away? On off like this since Biscay"

Any ideas.

Most recent txt at 10:20. They are leaving Sines due in Gibraltar in 11ish hours. Plan to kip there, and refuel tomorrow am, then 420 nm, 21hours, to Palma for a tanker refuel Thurs am. Then 360nm to Antibes. All weather and mechanicals permitting
 

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some mix up on gauges?

I wonder if he is mixed up. He doesn't have two sets of water temp guages, surely, in a single helm boat?

He has engine water temp gauges, engine oil temp gauges, and gearbox oil temp gauges - I think. See pic below (I dont have a high res of this pic)

The water temp guages reading 78+0 (busted) suggest all is ok. 78 is a sensible temp for water

The 95 readings are probly gearbox temp, which is fine

If the 95 is a water temp reading, then he should crack on but monitor it. The red section on a water temp gauge normally starts at 95 ish, becuase the water boils at about 110deg.

This is all a bit hard to text to him, but mebbe try?

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Re: some mix up on gauges?

Think that 78 + 0 are the exhaust manifold temps coz the stbd exhaust sensor was busted. i tried to fix it wiv chem metal , but wiv that much diesel flying around and bumpy bits its prob fallen off again.

78 prob OK for manifold.
95 for water jacket .... wld monitor it. My engines (albeit just a weensy bit smaller run at 95-102)
coolant wont boil until prob 110 deg C depending on pressure cap. If its staying there and not moving, prob OK.
If they are in fact gearbox temps then OK
 

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Re: some mix up on gauges?

What a ickle set of throttles for such a beastie......

JFM you must have a picture for every occasion for every boat!!! Do you do requests? Have you got one of a year 2000 maxum 2100 in forest green???
 

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Re: some mix up on gauges?

That's an old pic of his dash actually, about 2002, taken at the Arno factory. Those throttle levers were indeed a bit manky, and transmitted vibration and noise along the cables. He has since chucked them and now has those dogs danglies Rexroth throttles I believe.....
 

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Re: some mix up on gauges?

He texted back that the engine water was indeed reading 95. I said that is *just* acceptable so press on and monitor. He said he would, I am responsible for the next engine blow up so I've put some money aside /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif He has now stepped on the gas and the temp has fallen to 85 with (the better water flow rate I guess).

So all seems ok to press on, but needs checking in Antibes imho

Looks like he'll make it to Antibes Thursday I'd guess. I cant go to France this weekand, dang. Will be there Thursday week
 

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Re: some mix up on gauges?

Problem seems to be fixed. I'll quote Matt:

"All gine w temps g's.
Checked as usual.
Then took mad gamble and thrashed it at top whammo which appears to have completely fixed it. Think i will rite in to PBO about it...."
 
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