Tcm and the philosophical moose's copper powder

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Tcm and the philosophical moose\'s copper powder

TCM was sitting about again, staring into space wondering if he wanted a ciggie, or not, even though he had lasted fine (ish) for a month without one. But he knew that something interesting was bound to happen soon, as he was the star (i.e mug) in a long-running series of wizardish copper-on-hull related children's/idiot stories. How terrific!

Suddenly, a moose appeared before him. Not the old has-been moose but a new and youthful #1moose with all-new whizzy ideas about gues what - yes, that's right - copper! Cos the new moose had already been involved in ripping the old copper off the hull, at the end of book 1 with the self adhesive copper, if you remember.

Of course, tcm told moose#1 to get stuffed about the copper, cos he'd had enough. Except that in fact he didnt cos that wd be the end of the story.

"i have discovered interesting things about copper " said # 1moose. Tcm knew that he should tell the small moose to get lost but was lured in. "if you get some copper powder and mix it with ornery antifoul, it keeps all the barnacles off"

"i am not interested" said tcm.

Well no, he didn't say that as it happens, and soon enough he was on the telephone contraption to the goblins ordering 20kilos of 250 micron copper powder for 800 Lunatic-pounds.

Fortunately, tcm had lots of Lunatic-pounds, as he had converetd almost all his money at a special rate of 1:1 for lunatic money a while ago, and was intent on getting rid of the stuff by buying and burning diesel, and the rest on friggin copper, or so it seemed. He must be mad.

As before, the spot price of copper rose a bit on the london market, cos everyone knew that the amount of availbale copper had just got smaller, as the 20 kilos wd probably end up in biscay like the last lot. But at least moose-person wd not hav to prat around with the stuff this time.

What next in the ongoing war of tcm and his war against the kingdom of the Barn Iclkes, deep in the underworld 3 feet or so beneath the surface of the sea (excluding propellors) ?

Specifically, if the copper powder only works when it oxidises, shoud tcm leave the copper poweder out in the rain a bit and then mix it with the paint? Or should he put the nice new copper straight in with the paint and then hope it oxidizes later.

But, the moose #1 was nowhere to be seen, and as usual with magic stories, he hadn't supplied a workshop manual or detailed routeplan but just yerknow, seddit. Bit like that wizard of oz, and other adventure stories where the central flippin character blithely buys in to the ridiculous plot on a daftly-named messengers unsuported sayso with no cross check or anything, so tcm only has himself to blame. And tcm even had to buy his own gear, unlike cindarella for exmaple who just got free mice and pumpkins conversion routines or goldilocks who even without any magic involvement became famous for her audacious breaking and entry. TCM was beginning to wonder how it would all turn out....
 

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Re: So the two ugly sisters arrive..

Haydn, and LJS, and say 'you silly mug, stop looking at yourself in that shiny copper coloured brochure, and go and clean the bilges out'


So tcm heads off of to the bilges with some of the ugly sisters patented boat removing elixir, knowing he's never going to go to the Mercury do

One the way, he happens to notice a mirror on the wall, that he's never seen before. So, being in a philosophical frame of mind, he ignores the mirror, and asks the frame of the mirror. Frame, frame, around the mirror, who is going to be the winner?

The frame, startled to be asked a serious question, wakes up, and answers....?
 

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All that glitters is gold!

Well this particular ugly sister (but I hasten to add nowhere near as ugly as the other much older hlb) recently took a trip to London where he and his pussy expected to see the streets paved with gold. But we were disappointed to see none which set me thinking that it should be gold that is used in antifoul as when sunken treasure is found the gold is always shiny sparkling clean with no growth at all.

So go on tcm convert a few more lunatic pounds and do the job properly. And you'll be the only boat owner who will have to employ an underwater guard! Wot exclusivity!!
 

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A small vat and a 3Hp outboard

So there's D2 high & dry and tcm has purchased his small vat of antifoul plus some copper dust. Next he nicks an auxy motor off some boat or other to use as the mixing whisk. When...along comes the nice paint reps from various paint companies on their way back from a paint reps convention (all p1ssed and silly from the free booze). Copperbot rep says - "pah!, its been done already, you could have bought it ready-mixed from me". International rep says "rubbish idea that - just stick with Interspeed Ultra" Jotun rep chimes in with.."if mine's good enough for oil rigs, then its good enough for this 'ere plastic thing". All disagree and drunken brawl breaks out on quayside. To be continued..... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 

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Re: All that glitters is gold!

Then TCM looked at his crystal ball and saw in the past this 'special' additive was used by all paint people before the BIG controllers stopped the naughty manufacturers from making a paint that worked.

So, TCM thought he would telephone the naughty manufacturers and speak to someone who was making this paint that actually worked 15 years ago before the BIG controllers stepped in.
 

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Re: A small vat and a 3Hp outboard

This of course was being monitered by gonfishing, who already possesses an anti foul with huge copper content already in it for nowhere near the cost of all the others, or indeed the cost of the powder.
 

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Re: Ah but

all the paints with 66% copper and this or that had alreadybeeen tried and were no flippin good in the deep end the sea in the med, altho it mighht be alright for the lightweight barnacles in the shallow end around the channel. So, it had to be some real copper oxide to deflect these most severe of Barn Ickles.
 

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Re: Ah but

Had you considered the adding of chilli powder - got to be cheaper than the copper, and would make an interesting check - do 1/3 boat with copper, 1/3 chilli, and 1/3 without additive.
 

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The Talbot Speaks

Talbot meanwhile was comfily esconced in his lair, smugly offering advice from the lofty position of having joined tcm and Huge Coliholic on their very first copper adventure a year earlier. However, the chili idea was probably even dafter than the copper powder - but then again, so far, nothing had definitely worked. So tcm quietly registered the chili idea perhaps for another day and another adventure...
 

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Re: Tcm and the philosophical moose\'s copper powder

20 kilos of copper dust for 800 squids? Bit expensive Cash LME copper is $3200 a tonne, plus about $100 premium for physical material in a European warehouse. which is about 1800 quid. Seem to charge a lot for grinding the stuff up.

For next time, best talk to a copper trader.. maybe you should anyway? course he make you buy 25 tonnes a go, but the way you keep using it up, it will only last a year.

hope it works anyway.
 

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There are more stories about successful use of chilli than would be expected from the status of Urban Myth (he lisped), /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

so there is a slight chance that this might actually work - probably as good a reason as any to reject it! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

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Pepper Cables

We had a problem with cattle and rodents chewing our survey cables in some parts of the world. Apart from being expensive to repair, the diet wasn't doing the cattle much good and the locals were unhappy.

In the end we had a new cable made with the outer sleeve impregnated with industrial capsicum. Worked a treat and solved the problem, so just maybe it would work in antifouling also.
 

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Re: Tcm and the philosophical moose\'s copper powder

And here's the two ugly sisters HLB /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif & LJS eating a truly revolting concoction, gormet dining this aint, between them is the lovely Wendy....

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Re: Tcm and the philosophical moose\'s copper powder

The ugly sisters cogitated on TCM's Copper extraviganzo and in the science lab deap in the depths of the Sabden Treacle mine the majic elixior was brewed. Greatly helped by my old dentist who also had a boat in the med and was an expert at antifouling but rubbish as a dentist and got struck off!!

What you need is gallons and gallons of Woolworths clear emulsion paint liberally sprinked with the hotest chilly powder available, add to this brew my dentists secret ingredience. ( maybe wot he got struck off for) Antibiotics! as many of the buggers as you can find.

So Goldilocks, TCM, and the three bears, but also Cinderella and the pumpkin were forever thankfull to the ugly sisters and the Boffins at the Treacle mine for all there hard work.
 

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Re: Tcm and the philosophical moose\'s copper powder

TCM thought hard how could he get the metallic mixture applied to his bottom, last time he conned some forumites into fitting his fablonised copper. they did not mind sticky fingers, they worked double quick last time, even on a burger diet, could he do that again, would more peeps volunteer, was there another way......then he suddenly realised that he could do it using his max amps shore power....... by dipping the posy lead in the water and the neggy lead connected to his shiney hand rails he could just throw the mix over the side and whammo copper plating your bottom has been invented. but would it work?
 

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Re: Tcm and the philosophical moose\'s copper powder

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but would it work?

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Yes, it will, I hope. It has worked perfectly on the many panels that I have dipped into the Marina over the last 6 months. In fact, Dulux Bright White paint with 100g/0.1litre copper was better than nearly all "proper" antifoulings.
 
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