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500. Hours.
In a 1996 boat.

A. Run a mile, lucky escape and keep looking .
B. Worth considering if broker enquiries reveal amazingly detailed service history with recent work to cooling and turbo .

Forum search pulls up some negative posts from way back on these engines.
Volvo TAMD72
 
The linings are foam backed which fails and delaminates, unrepairable so it's a big job. Very common on boats that have spent time in the med.

It needs a complete strip and refurb and possibly repowering. So the asking price is hopelessly optimistic because that work could easily cost 100k or more if you paid for a pro job; DIY would obviously be less and in that case it's maybe viable. As is, at that money or near it, no way. All IMHO of course.

A great donor boat for a project though if it could be bought at the right price.
 
Scala said:
..... and possibly repowering.
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Is it the low hours showing on the hour meters that makes you think that ? Or just the age of the boat?
Presumably engines can be inspected and tested to reduce risk of any serious faults ?
 
MartynG said:
Is it the low hours showing on the hour meters that makes you think that ? Or just the age of the boat?
Presumably engines can be inspected and tested to reduce risk of any serious faults ?
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Well, I've not been to see it to be fair. Hours seem unfeasibly low, 20 per year, that's a worry. A major rebuild would cost 1000's.

The TAMD72 not the best, it's probably underpowered for such a big boat (max 26kts maybe hopeful), they're 25+ years old. A repower with say Cummins 480 or 550 would transform it. At a significant cost, unjustified at that asking price. So IMHO the engines are the key to any deal - if they're in top condition and need no work and perform well, happy days.
 
Scala said:
The linings are foam backed which fails and delaminates, unrepairable so it's a big job. Very common on boats that have spent time in the med.
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Not really just certain specific marques .
I have never seen this on Italian boats , bit inaccurate “ Very common on boats that have spent time in the med “

I understand Fairline has a problem , there is a history of posts on here .

On Another issue touched upon the hp or engine size in post #14 .Yes agree when boat shopping you ideally want the largest motors ( access considerations assured ) with the highest Hp in the bunch of competitors/ like for like prospects .
Overloading = early demise = big bills .

Rule of thumb on aged motors in aged boats knock 5 knots off the then sales brochures WOT in this case 26 knots .
If you can cope with never going above 21 knots in terms of being sympathetic to the motors in general use - then fine .

This is with a clean bum / sterngear etc , so knock a few more off as the season progresses.

Of course it may see a higher number but I advocate outside a buying sea trial to test the cooling efficiency a one off , stay out of that zone above 21 knots .
Excess cylinder temps / pressures =excess EGT s = injector tip damage + exhaust valve mushrooms = BIG bills .

American sport fishers , commercial outfits in similar sized boats clock up 1000 s of hrs north of 5/6000 until overhauls .
The common denominator for such hight hrs longevity is not overloading them , cruising at 80 % load .What ever speed that equates to your cruise speed .

Not what the literature/ Internet says the boat will do .

Boats effectively run about in top gear up hill all the time from a load pov .Unlike a loaded cement mixer truck approaching a hill a boat can’t change down a gear , nor has the ability to coast down the other side of the hill.

They ( professional skippers ) use EGT gauges to assist longevity.

Yes it’s possible with chronic overload to end up tipping £1000 s into the motors , but there is no cure so “it’s until the next time “
 
The hour meters that were available a few years ago (or new tachometers) would set the hours back to zero . Replacement hour meters available now retain the hours stored in the instrument.
So there is a chance the hours displayed are under stated. Usually a seller would be honest about that.

Under powered is off putting. Fitting new engines in an old boat is not an attractive prospect.
 
MartynG said:
The hour meters that were available a few years ago (or new tachometers) would set the hours back to zero . Replacement hour meters available now retain the hours stored in the instrument.
So there is a chance the hours displayed are under stated. Usually a seller would be honest about that.

Under powered is off putting. Fitting new engines in an old boat is not an attractive prospect.
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True, no suggestion in the advert that the hours were reset.

Repowering would be fine if the boat was bought at the right price especially if it was intended as a long term keeper.
 
In this budget price range and age group many pre loved Princess and Fairlines in the UK ( virtually all ? ) have that saggy vinyl on display somewhere on boat usually in the saloon under windows and inside the curtain gulley.
From experience, this unsightly saggyness can be sorted to greater or lesser extent by the untalented, provided the area is not to big.
Involves getting contact adhesive behind flabby vinyl and then restretching. White plastic angle DIY strip commonly available can then be used to retension the vinyl.
Signs of repair will be mostly hidden out of sight below shelf and white UPVC blends in fairly well.
 
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I found what appears to be the same boat for sale in Ireland in 2020 with the interior woodwork looking bad . Maybe it now might not look so good in real life . I think the interior woodwork may have been stripped and revarnished. Photographs dont always show the true condition of a boat.
It was also advertised at Burton Waters while lying at its present location.
 
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