Swedish yachts - not HR/Najad/Malo

[Vid]

There seem to be a fair number of less well-known Swedish makes that are available second-hand for reasonable prices - I'm thinking of Albin Ballads, Albin Vegas, Starboats B31, Marieholms etc.

They seem to offer seaworthy and handsome boats that are ideal for northern waters and first-time yacht owners - capable yachts for less than £20k.

Is my assessment accurate - I'd be interested in forumites views.

Also, they do seem to be cheaper in Scandinavia - any issues around buying one there (I assume they'd be capable of being sailed back).

Thanks in advance

David

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[janie]

Definitely the answer for Ballads - their sailing season is so much shorter and they are all beautifully maintained. I would have thought they'd be old enough not to qualify for RCD. We need more Ballads over here!

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[woody001]

mmmm swedish yachts kick arse?
I wonder what yacht i have....

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[micha_unterwegs]

Definitely a good choice. Same goes for Danish oldies (Bandholm, Folkeboat, LM).

Sometimes boats tend to be not that well maintained compared to what second hand boats in Germany look like (don't know about the UK).
But the prices are usually lower and if the main structure is ok, so why not buying a boat over there.

Still beware of any VAT issues. You may need a copy of the original invoice to proove that VAT has already been paid in the country of origin. Otherwise you may have to pay VAT on it again - even for transfers inside the EU.

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[Vid]

Are Ballads something worth being particularly interested in?

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[kidnapped]

Yes, I believe they are. When I was a youngster ..... early twenties .... I used to race on a Scampi [Norlin 30/31?], get chased hard by Ballads and Nich 30's. I reckon they were all good, don't know how they have stood the test of time. Got beaten once by a Nich 30, N. Irish crew, F6 >> F8 .... hard B*******s, these N. Irish ..... great for a beer afterwards, though!!! All on West of Scotland.

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[jenku]

Just for the record and some inner Scandinavian justice... the folkboat is a Swedish design, not Danish. And there is no "folkeboat", that a German-Danish-Anglification. It's either a folkboat, a folkbåt or should be a "Volksboot". It's exactly like the car, but that's German....

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[janie]

Ballads

Those of us who own them believe so! But we're not very good at passing them on. They're difficult to buy in this country - but looking in Scandinavia will get you a good deal. All the Ballads we've seen there look immaculate compared to ours.

They look great on the water and they sail well.

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[steve_l]

Scanmar/Scanner, Ohlson, from Sweden. Sunwind, Finngulf from Finland etc...
All good boats and could be half the price of the equivalent UK sourced boat if you look around depending on fit-out. Tend to be looked after.

Shouldn't be any problems as both are EU members.

Go for it )

-steve-

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[Twister_Ken]

Also Maxis. The old ones look a bit odd (no side decks), but work very well

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[mpprh]

Hi

Swedish boats have a short season and are ashore 6+ months of the year. The bonus is that much of rthe winter is very cold, and the air has low humidity = osmosis is very rare.

Here is a searchable site for used boats in Sweden : http://www.batborsen.com/bb/se/default.jsp

Of course, you need to be a bit imaginative with the language, but SOK = search, segelbat = sailboat, motorseglar = motorsailor, etc

Good luck

Peter


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[mbarbarick]

Would you know where I could get rubrail and station parts for the Scanmar 33?

thanks

Mike

 

[Twister_Ken]

Ahem,

There's also Arcona, he said discreetly. Not for £20K, though.

 

[pvb]

Ahem,

There's also Arcona, he said discreetly. Not for £20K, though.

Did you notice it's a 10 year old thread?:nonchalance:

 

[Twister_Ken]

No. But even 10 years ago you couldn't get an Arcona for £20K.

 

[xyachtdave]

Did you notice it's a 10 year old thread?:nonchalance:

 

[horatio_nelson]

Bought a Scanmar 33 a few months ago

 

[jbweston]

Hi

Swedish boats have a short season and are ashore 6+ months of the year. The bonus is that much of rthe winter is very cold, and the air has low humidity = osmosis is very rare.

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Good luck

Peter


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I agree with this comment. Many Swedish boats are laid up ashore 8 or 9 months a year. The air is dry in the winter. Most Swedes are less posh and 'monied' about their sailing. Put the other way, many normal Swedes have a boat and look after her. So there are plenty of good boats available. I guess there are some dogs, like in the UK, but my impression is that many boats are kept well.

Against that you have to put that Sweden is expensive and they have high VAT rates. So I think anyone could find a boat in good condition for its age, but i wouldn't like to think it was going to be cheaper than a good UK boat.

I don't know why anyone cares that's it's an old thread. I know some people get worked about re-starting old threads. Of course some subjects are time-sensitive but a lot of sailing questions have similar answers in 1920, 1990 or now. Gravity works downwards and good boats are good boats whatever year it is. New answers to old questions are not necessarily better.

 

[Olianta]

Take a look at Linjett for more than 20k. It is a good quality fast boat.