Renegade_Master
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A customer of mine has a Superhawk 50 which we sold him. Twin 680 Mann's on surface drives. Very nice too
Sunseeker Superhawk 48 - ultimate dayboat?
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BrendanS
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Clive, ignore, it's a 2005 thread resurrected by a multiple spammer.
waterbird
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Hi,
I am a new member here, firstly hello to you all. I am in the process of considering buying a Superhawk 48 or 46 Camargue/55 Camargue. I say I as it is my Purse that will be hit the hardest
. We are selling up the Estate in France and moving down to the South Coast of Spain and want a Sports cruiser to enjoy the Med. We would also like to be able to Charter the boat out on occasions as my partner Louise is a diving instructor and RYA Power boat intermediate, she would like to take clients out as well.
I will be buying the boat mind you and it is a big commitment... I have been a fan of Sunseeker ever since spending time on one as a teenager. I am an educated Marine Biologist and the Sea has always been my passion but as yet have any experience of owning my own dream boat. The Superhawk 48 and Camargue are my dream boats and I have found some within budget but it is very important that I can make her earn her keep. It will be a substantial financial purchase and to offset some of the costs by the odd Charter would be wonderful.
Firstly could someone advise us on the Superhawk 48, as we intend fun, weekends away and practicality. What sort of prices could we Charter her out for and what level RYA would be needed to Skipper and Charter her? would Louise be able to do this with her Powerboat intermediate?. Can we hire skippers on a daily basis if we are working away?. I will be doing my RYA courses aboard the boat when we move down there, hopefully sometime soon.
Also has anyone any knowledge as to the annual mooring costs in any of the Marinas along the Costa Tropical for a boat of this size? and are there any recommendations?. We have seen figures ranging from 5,000 Euros p/a to 30 or 40,000 Euros p/a at Puerto Banus and really have no idea. We want somewhere nice but innexpensive and a good base to experience the best of Southern Spain.
Also in regards to boat transportation, any references to good companies who will move boats across Spain/France/UK?, UK to and from as well?.
Thank you kindly for reading, I apologise for the vast array of questions but seeing the Thread titled Superhawk 48 I am hoping I may find other Sunseeker owners who may be a treasure trove of Knowledge.
Again a friendly Hello to you all.
Best wishes
Tara & Louise
I am a new member here, firstly hello to you all. I am in the process of considering buying a Superhawk 48 or 46 Camargue/55 Camargue. I say I as it is my Purse that will be hit the hardest
. We are selling up the Estate in France and moving down to the South Coast of Spain and want a Sports cruiser to enjoy the Med. We would also like to be able to Charter the boat out on occasions as my partner Louise is a diving instructor and RYA Power boat intermediate, she would like to take clients out as well.I will be buying the boat mind you and it is a big commitment... I have been a fan of Sunseeker ever since spending time on one as a teenager. I am an educated Marine Biologist and the Sea has always been my passion but as yet have any experience of owning my own dream boat. The Superhawk 48 and Camargue are my dream boats and I have found some within budget but it is very important that I can make her earn her keep. It will be a substantial financial purchase and to offset some of the costs by the odd Charter would be wonderful.
Firstly could someone advise us on the Superhawk 48, as we intend fun, weekends away and practicality. What sort of prices could we Charter her out for and what level RYA would be needed to Skipper and Charter her? would Louise be able to do this with her Powerboat intermediate?. Can we hire skippers on a daily basis if we are working away?. I will be doing my RYA courses aboard the boat when we move down there, hopefully sometime soon.
Also has anyone any knowledge as to the annual mooring costs in any of the Marinas along the Costa Tropical for a boat of this size? and are there any recommendations?. We have seen figures ranging from 5,000 Euros p/a to 30 or 40,000 Euros p/a at Puerto Banus and really have no idea. We want somewhere nice but innexpensive and a good base to experience the best of Southern Spain.
Also in regards to boat transportation, any references to good companies who will move boats across Spain/France/UK?, UK to and from as well?.
Thank you kindly for reading, I apologise for the vast array of questions but seeing the Thread titled Superhawk 48 I am hoping I may find other Sunseeker owners who may be a treasure trove of Knowledge.
Again a friendly Hello to you all.
Best wishes
Tara & Louise
PowerYachtBlog
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That is ugly the 105.
For the 48 Superhawk I once handled a 48 Mark.II with twin KAD43. Still fast she used to do 34 knots max, and pretty light boat. Once the wave gets over her lenght it slammed a bit too much for my taste. But was a joy to drive in following seas. I did felt it steering to light for a 48 feet. I think the Sunseeker Don Shead hull will also suffer its less of deadries to fore. It also chines a bit, but this might be the case for twin sterndrives in a 48 footish boat.
I still think the best looking Hawk series where the following:
29 Mohawk
31 Hawk
37 Tomahawk
37 Tomahawk Mk. II (one of the best with the 41)
41 Tomahawk
43 Thunderhawk (the 48 has its hull extended from this)
and the latest 43 Superhawk.
What makes the 37/43/29 Hawks look dated today is the reverse shear line in the middle of the craft, apart this they are still very actual cool designs.
I also love the looks (and still do) from the 40 Comanche which came out from 93 to 96. It was a bit of a balance between a powerboat and a sportcruiser kinda like the Cranchi 39 Endurance. Its performance and handling was still never as good as the 37 which is considered one of Sunseeker best ever designs.
For the 48 Superhawk I once handled a 48 Mark.II with twin KAD43. Still fast she used to do 34 knots max, and pretty light boat. Once the wave gets over her lenght it slammed a bit too much for my taste. But was a joy to drive in following seas. I did felt it steering to light for a 48 feet. I think the Sunseeker Don Shead hull will also suffer its less of deadries to fore. It also chines a bit, but this might be the case for twin sterndrives in a 48 footish boat.
I still think the best looking Hawk series where the following:
29 Mohawk
31 Hawk
37 Tomahawk
37 Tomahawk Mk. II (one of the best with the 41)
41 Tomahawk
43 Thunderhawk (the 48 has its hull extended from this)
and the latest 43 Superhawk.
What makes the 37/43/29 Hawks look dated today is the reverse shear line in the middle of the craft, apart this they are still very actual cool designs.
I also love the looks (and still do) from the 40 Comanche which came out from 93 to 96. It was a bit of a balance between a powerboat and a sportcruiser kinda like the Cranchi 39 Endurance. Its performance and handling was still never as good as the 37 which is considered one of Sunseeker best ever designs.
PowerYachtBlog
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Waterbird seeing your posts now.
The upkeep and running costs between a 48 Superhawk and 46 or 55 Camargue is universe of difference.
The 55 Camargue will have GM/MTUs 2 x 765hp engines that drink about 200-250 lph cruising at about 28 knots.
A 48 Superhawk with 3 x 230hp will drink about 150 lph at the same speed.
And a 46 Camargue will drink about 180 lph doing 26 knots. These are powered by 2 x 550hp GM Detroits.
For the 48 Superhawk considering its small accommodation inside I dont think any more then a daily charter is possible. For the other 2 especially the spacious 55 Camargue anything is possible. But even a 46 Camargue can be comfortable considering it has an aft cabin aft and with this is a 3 cabin boat.
You should also look for a 47 Camargue I have one which can go for cheap. Much modern boat with nice cherry interior and drinks less to a 46 Camargue being it equipped with twin Cats 435hp V8 engines. PM me if interested.
The upkeep and running costs between a 48 Superhawk and 46 or 55 Camargue is universe of difference.
The 55 Camargue will have GM/MTUs 2 x 765hp engines that drink about 200-250 lph cruising at about 28 knots.
A 48 Superhawk with 3 x 230hp will drink about 150 lph at the same speed.
And a 46 Camargue will drink about 180 lph doing 26 knots. These are powered by 2 x 550hp GM Detroits.
For the 48 Superhawk considering its small accommodation inside I dont think any more then a daily charter is possible. For the other 2 especially the spacious 55 Camargue anything is possible. But even a 46 Camargue can be comfortable considering it has an aft cabin aft and with this is a 3 cabin boat.
You should also look for a 47 Camargue I have one which can go for cheap. Much modern boat with nice cherry interior and drinks less to a 46 Camargue being it equipped with twin Cats 435hp V8 engines. PM me if interested.
waterbird
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Hi Poweryachtblog,
thank you for that reply, another user has been kind enough to give the similar advice. We are thinking the Camargue may be the better option for our needs and steering clear of any with detroits is a must I think. Could any of you advise me, on the Chartering side of things, is it the individual or the boat that needs licencing for this?. Is it possible to charter your boat but hire a fully qualified skipper to handle the Charter?.
Going for a Camargue is pushing budgets a little higher outside of one's comfort zone but if we can make her work for us as well as have fun aboard then fantastic.
Best wishes
Tara
thank you for that reply, another user has been kind enough to give the similar advice. We are thinking the Camargue may be the better option for our needs and steering clear of any with detroits is a must I think. Could any of you advise me, on the Chartering side of things, is it the individual or the boat that needs licencing for this?. Is it possible to charter your boat but hire a fully qualified skipper to handle the Charter?.
Going for a Camargue is pushing budgets a little higher outside of one's comfort zone but if we can make her work for us as well as have fun aboard then fantastic.
Best wishes
Tara
MapisM
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Both and yes, I reckon.
waterbird
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Thank you MapisM,
My partner has her Power boat intermediate and I will be doing my qualifications whilst in Spain. I would love to get to the required level in the future but if hiring a Skipper to handle the Charter is a possible then that will enable us to make her earn a little upkeep monies which would be great.
Thank you again
Tara
My partner has her Power boat intermediate and I will be doing my qualifications whilst in Spain. I would love to get to the required level in the future but if hiring a Skipper to handle the Charter is a possible then that will enable us to make her earn a little upkeep monies which would be great.
Thank you again
Tara
DougH
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Would agree that from the outside the looks are not to everyones taste.
BUT go on-board and see the inside and it will blow your mind away, and you quickly ignore the outside shapes and colour when you walk around the outside decks and drool over the facilities.
Me, I could easily ignore the shape and colour if it was given to me.
BUT go on-board and see the inside and it will blow your mind away, and you quickly ignore the outside shapes and colour when you walk around the outside decks and drool over the facilities.
Me, I could easily ignore the shape and colour if it was given to me.
MapisM
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You're talking about the S/skr 105 at the beginning of this very old thread, I guess?
If so, I really can't see why - for that kind of money - you shouldn't expect ALSO a decent shape and colour...