Sunseeker facrory visit

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First of all a massive thanks to Sunseeker Torquay. I got chatting to Jamie at SIBS whilst he showed me round the Manhattan 55, one thing led to another and I found myself driving down to Poole the otherTuesday evening. I took the Bentley Continental, not a GT but a rather rare "S" from 1995 and had a wonderful journey. Whoever thought motorways could be such a pleasure, the reason for my choice of transport will become apparent.

Anyway, on a wet and blustery November morning I drove the half a mile from my hotel to Sunseeker Sales to be greeted by Jamie and Tom from Torquay as well as Colin from the factory. A cup of tea and a quick video showing Sunseeker's history then it was off to the factory.

I've never been to a boat factory before and one of the reasons for that was a fear it would ruin my enjoyment of boats. I had it in my mind that essentially they took fibreglass tubs then siliconed on loads of stuff ending up with some shiny surfaces on the user facing bit. I was sure that once you'd seen a boat being built you'd never want to go out and buy one.

My fears were unfounded and I came away very impressed with what goes on underneath the shiny exterior. The first thing to say is my god, a bare hull is huge. You are almost in fear of it. We were looking at 80 foot moulds and they are gigantic. Once in the water an 80 footer is never going to called small but it wouldn't scare you. Inside the factory it is a different matter.


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So Hull created it was out of the mould and bulkheads were put in place. Again, the doorways looked far too small such was the enormity of the open structure. You could trace out the layout at this point, engines and heavy machinery get put in place before the top sides go on and the boat moves into the fit out hall.

There is a significant supporting structure behind all the surfaces you see in the finished article and I was re-assured looking at the amount of care and thought which went into these unseen areas. The wiring appeared to be a nightmare at first glance but look a bit closer and you could seen it's modular nature. Something like the dashboard was built up and tested off site, then plugged into the loom. Look even closer and you could see each individual wire had printing running along the outer sheathing saying what it was for. Very impressive.

There was the expected balance between machine finish and hand fettling. Sunseeker make the bulk of their components in house, we didn't have time to see the tech centre where this takes place but they have clearly invested enormously on equipment and processes to achieve excellent results whilst maintaining a flexibility to accommodate individual requirements and tastes. You get the impression anything is possible providing sir's pocket is deep enough.


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The highlight of the visit had to be looking round the impressive 155 Yacht #1. It's big, very big and the construction methods obviously have to take into account mandatory requirements beyond those of "our" sized craft. ISO colour identification of all pipework was something you spotted instantly as an example. The vessel was covered from head to toe in plastic so we couldn't see the enormity or design but stepping on board was like entering a public space rather than a private boat. The supporting workshop areas were well organised and calm.

Sunseeker styling might not be to everyone's taste and some things I would deem essential such as handrails for people walking along the gunwale have to be specified as an extra but there is no denying that as a company they are working hard to produce a good boat. The guys working there all seem focussed and there was a sense of cameraderie as people worked around each other.

It was still hard to relate all the work we had seen carried out when looking at the finished article. Walking round a boat at a show it is easy to say something should be a few inches one way or the other, dealing with all the individual components so a space is created at all would be beyond the capability of most of us. This is particularly the case as boats get smaller. With a 150 footer there is quite a bit of spare space to run machinery and plant. With a 50 footer every little space has to earn it's place.

I came away pleased to have visited the build process. I wasn't disillusioned at all, in fact quite the opposite.

So, why did I rock up in the old Bentley then?

The day was a 2 part event, well actually 3 parts if you include a very pleasant buffet lunch at the Hotel du Vin. Having walked round the factory and filled my pockets full of sandwiches and pork pies we returned to the Sunseeker offices to be greeted by the boys from Bentley. They had a Continental GT Speed and Mulsanne to drive.

I set off heading towards Weymouth in the Continental Speed and have to say it was a delight. At 5,000lbs, just over 2.3 tonnes it wasn't what you might call lightweight particularly when compared to some of our more specialist Porsches but at not point did it feel large or heavy to drive. In fact quite the opposite, through the narrow roads it was beautifully poised and well balanced. to say it was powerful would be something of an understatement. With the button labelled sport pressed down and your foot nearing the sumptuous carpet this bad boy shot out of the trap like a greyhound on a mission and it just kept on going. At no point did it occur to the car that it might be time to think about running out of puff.

Descending into one of several villages on our route I lowered the window slightly to take in the car's exhaust note. Suitably satisfying. Purposeful enough to say I've arrived, but not so offensive that fathers would feel the need to lock up their daughters.

What was even more impressive was the fact this was the cabriolet version without the benefit of a tin roof to reduce body flex. To be fair we didn't have the roof down - I didn't have my oil skins, but the cabin was solid without any creaks.

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After just under an hour it was time to swap over into the Mulsanne. 1,000lbs, a bit under half a tonne heavier this was never intended to be classed as a lightweight, in fact far from it. This car is supposed to make you feel special. You should be equally at home driving yourself or being driven by a bloke wearing a hat and the idea is you don't look a tool when you get there.

A Rolls Royce Phantom does make a bit of a statement, a bit like going round and laying a turd on your neighbours door step, it can't be ignored. A Bentley Mulsanne on the other hand is a bit more subtle, Gramoxone all over their back lawn. When you turn up somewhere people aren't immediately sure what you've arrived in and just who you are. There are no specific signs that point to the fact you went into the dealership with, in round terms, £200,000 but there's something about the car which makes onlookers stare.

Compared to the Continental this is all about bespoke luxury. It isn't slow and doesn't wallow but you need a minute to re-adjust your driving style. You glide everywhere, apexes aren't there to be clipped and if someone wants to pull out of a junction then slow down and let them out. It brings out the gentleman in you.

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In some ways the car is more tiring to drive than the Continental because you are dealing with more mass and the steering isn't as sharp but then again you don't feel the urge to explore all that power. You do tend to grow horns in the Continental Speed which might not endear you to the local constabulary.

All in all a cracking day out and grateful thanks to both Sunseeker and Bentley.
 
Interesting thread, thanks for posting Henry.

I can't comment much on Bentleys, way out of my league although can understand your comments on the Mulsanne.
I had an old XJ6 series 3 years back, which evoked a similar driving style - very serene despite loads of power on tap if required.
Somehow it just made you drive it smoothly and quite gently, as it was a wonderfully tranquil experience.

As regards Sunseeker, I went round in the early 2000's and was also very impressed.
The one thing that stuck in my mind were the sheer number of dedicated people beavering away to make the product what it is.
As a result I now understand why they cost what they do - and don't begrudge them a penny of the asking price.

I've yet to see the latest 155 yacht, but will be going down to stay in Poole over Christmas, so hopefully it'll still be there.
Did they say when it's due for delivery? Do you know how far off completion it was?
 
Great post, agree re the sheer size of bare hulls, it's amazing how small they get when they start getting filled up with stuff.

We had a visit to Les Herbiers to see our Prestige being put together; very glad we did, will have to get the video up some day its worth a look just to see the efficiencies in their production line...

We are semi serious about the V8 GTC rag top...its a lovely bit of kit and pretty cheap compared to a Sunseeker?
 
Henry, thanks for the post. A great read. Good to hear that Sunny are making a good job of their builds. I went round there a few years ago, also Prinny, navy was equally impressed with both. And old colleague of mine is the Quality Manager at Sunny.

Regarding the Bentleys, the Conti/Spur series, they are a fantastic drive, even down to the "feeble" V8! The old Mulsanne is a bit of a nostalgia trip, it really goes back to the mid 1990's, and the engine to the '50's. Nonetheless it makes a great statement, and the styling is much easier on the eye than the RR Phantom. Sounds like a great trip all in all Henry.
 
also did the factory tour a year or two back and found it fascinating. It was laid on for a friend with business connections and he took me as his guest. Very impressive and the tour was topped off with a blast round Poole Bay in a just completed Predator 80. Nice goodie bag too! Thank you Sunseeker!
 
Just realised a typo in the title. Ah well !!

No, not looking to buy anything just yet but it was interesting to discover more about the brand.

Visually they probably wouldn't be my first choice. Very striking the bigger boats seem to be layer upon layer upon layer. Princess are a bit more reserved, well as much as a bloody great lump of boat can be.

What did change was my feelings towards how they were designed and built. A simple thing: With the Princess all the sole hatches are hidden under lift off carpet. If you ever need to change the carpet in a Princess it is easy as they are essentially a load of over mats covering the underlay. Sunseeker opt for installed carpet everywhere and have quite a few hatches with stainless surrounds everywhere. I've always though they were a bit of an afterthought, the boat gets built and someone panics thinking OMG we've got some seacocks or valves under the floor. What are we going to do? Bung a hatch in. Of course the plus side is they are very easy to access. If you wanted to you could have continuous carpet. It's just the way Sunseeker choose to do things but sub consciously I'd always marked them down, in hindsight unfairly.

Henry :)
 
What did change was my feelings towards how they were designed and built. A simple thing: With the Princess all the sole hatches are hidden under lift off carpet. If you ever need to change the carpet in a Princess it is easy as they are essentially a load of over mats covering the underlay. Sunseeker opt for installed carpet everywhere and have quite a few hatches with stainless surrounds everywhere. I've always though they were a bit of an afterthought, the boat gets built and someone panics thinking OMG we've got some seacocks or valves under the floor. What are we going to do? Bung a hatch in. Of course the plus side is they are very easy to access. If you wanted to you could have continuous carpet. It's just the way Sunseeker choose to do things but sub consciously I'd always marked them down, in hindsight unfairly.

Henry :)

If I understood what you said correctly, surely a continuous carpet is cheaper to do (and replace). Have each hatch cut out with a surround would be dearer and shows more attention to detail.

Also, how many new Sunseeker or Princess buyers are worrying about changing the carpet? (However, if they do worry, they can relax....if you get a stain on the Prin carpet the whole thing needs replacing and on the SS only one piece needs replacing.)

All IMHO

BTW, I loved the write up.
 
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Absolutely, I'm not arguing over the cost, the stainless surrounds and cutting the carpet to fit is a more costly process. I'd just subconsciously thought having to fit visible hatches equated to a lack of planning - which it doesn't at all.

It would actually be cheaper and easier to replace a section of Princess carpet. You could buy it pre-made. The Sunseeker would require someone to come and cut & fit on site.

In the Fairline we had a complete over carpet covering the fitted under carpet. Princess argue that you might as well do away with the fitted under carpet and just replace the top surface as and when necessary.

Henry :)
 
I looked at few boats where you had to move whole carpets (or even floors) to get to the techy bits of the boat....that to me is a bad thing. I like to be able to get to places to do things simply and easily without disrupting everything (like lifting a table out so the carpet can be taken up). That's just me though, and we are all different.
 
Thanks for that Henry. I am told that the moulds for the smaller SS have already been shipped to China. More to follow ? I hope not !
Can we have a pic of the 1995 Continental "S" please. Thanks:)
 
Thanks for that tale Henry. Sounds a very nice day out. I didn't realise you hadn't been to a boat factory before - yes it is indeed a lot of fun seeing them being built. I love the GRP and wood smell too. You should ask Princess for a tour. Do you have any more pictures you could post?

AFAIK the 155 is scheduled for seatrials in the first week of 2014 - while LIBS is on

I've always considered visible floor hatches to be superior to carpeting it all. You gotta be able to access all those spaces easily. I agree that "overcarpets" a la Fairline are useless - they are Fairline options not standard; I've never specced them and never would
 
A Rolls Royce Phantom does make a bit of a statement, a bit like going round and laying a turd on your neighbours door step, it can't be ignored. A Bentley Mulsanne on the other hand...

Jeremy Clarkson couldn't have put it better! :encouragement:

"All in all a cracking Good Post and grateful thanks to HenryF Sunseeker and Bentley." It must have taken quite a time to put this one together.

Great read, thanks for sharing.:)

RR
 
Hey guys, it's a tough life but one of us has to take that hit for the troops.

You don't even want to know what my next boating adventure is ;)

Starts tomorrow.......


Henry :)
 
Henry, I understand this must be really hard for you to share but we all want to show our support for you in this tough time. Summon up the courage and do tell. We'll all be there for support I'm sure....
 
Henry - Have a great time - I know you all will :D - Not sure if the Captain will allow you to put your GoPro on the handrail of his bucket for taking some action shots in the high seas for us fellow forumites to view whilst stuck in poor old Blighty - But worth asking anyhow.

Apologies as I could not pop round this week to see you all as I have knackered my driving foot for a few days and been laid up but that's another story :(

Looking forward to catching up with you all on your return and hearing about this forthcoming epic adventure - Sounds Scary btw - Wishing you Shaz and Emz a Great Xmas and Fab New Year assuming you all survive :cool:

The amount of pre-training you and Shaz have both undertaken in the last few months to undertake this assignment is nothing short of a miracle imho - Even the USA Seals or UK SAS would have had difficulty in preparing for this particularly difficult challenge and I very much doubt they could pull it off as well as you guys :rolleyes:


All the Best Terry & Babs :encouragement:
 
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Terry - I can't tell you the number of times I thought about giving up getting ready for this one.

1st stage has gone to plan and we are safely in the pre-staging area.

I will start a separate thread at some point in the future providing we survive.......

Sorry I had to dash off when you called Terry, I was checking all our equipment onto an airplane. Have an enjoyable Christmas and all the best for 2014.



Henry :)
 
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