Sunday roast at Newport IOW

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For the best Sunday roast try the Barley Mow at Shide a short walk from Newport quay. Along by the river by Matalan sharp right at the second footbridge, then left for about 100yds. It takes about 12 mins to walk it. 12 veg and potatoes, and a choice of roast meat for £4,50 for a medium plate, the place is a bit spit and sawdust, but does supreme Non frozen fresh food. The landlady is one of the finest cooks and takes great pride in the tucker. The lads on the jetty will confirm. Not many proper pubs about now, this one still is and welcomes you like one of the family. And dont take the cook away or offer her a job, I want her to stay for a few years more. Now that I have found the place.
 
just hope that the development of Newport doesn't destroy too much of the character of the place ... I love Newport and its unhurried, non-developed style ...
 
Report from the County Press earlier this year here. No signs of anything starting yet (apart from at Odessa Boatyard). It hasn't even been confirmed yet that Cowes Harbour Commission will take over management of Newport Harbour which is key to the development.
 
Re: Newport Harbour

They seem to have a sensible approach to it.

The rough plan is that the Town Quay pontoons will remain and the bus museum is moving so there will then be development along eastern side. Apparently they are not going to make the same mistake as with the Travel Lodge and Medina Quay pub, public access is going to be preserved along the quay.

Odessa have doubled the length of pontoons with all boatyard services such as slippage and crane - he is hoping to let out some of the site for marine based businesses such as a chandlers or canvas works. The owner is a boatowner himself and wants to keep his stretch for boatowners, developing the boatyard but not going down the marina line.

The gravel yard has gone and local talk is that another hotel is going there. Eventually there will be residential building on the western side behind Odessa as all the industrial sites are short leases.

The quay has stagnated and become a glorified car park, even the number of boats lifted out for the winter has reduced in recent years. It would be nice to see some sensible development and improved facilities for visitors.
 
Re: Newport Harbour

Agree, the approach is quite positive, and has a boatowners touch to it, rather than just a redevelopment by a company who have no idea about boating, or water side access
 
Re: Newport Harbour.... something not right here ....

Here we have posts saying a Boatowners touch to the proposed development ..... Uh HUM .... that does not agree with local comment and talk .... from Harbour people.

Jimbuoy and I talked to people there - main comment was about a certain person in Newport with vested interest to change the SQ and develop the location .... with of course increased rents / leasings etc.

Funny how the people working there have a different view ? Maybe we are talking about different Newport ??

Me - I just hope the silt continues to restrict what boats can get up there ...... that the quiet and charm stays .....
 
Re: Newport Harbour.... something not right here ....

Be interested to know who "Harbour people" "certain person" and "local comment" are. Lots of ins and outs to local politics if you don't know what's going on. Also an inbuilt Caulkhead attitude to oppose change at any cost surfaces very easily.

The only people with a "vested interest to change the SQ and develop the location" are the council who own all of both sides of the quay apart from two very small freehold residential properties, they have acquired it bit by bit over the last 20 years so that they exercise total control over any development.

I don't think a bit of quayside gossip from one or two individuals, with perhaps their own agenda, would necessarily give you an accurate picture. Not a different Newport, probably just another facet of the same one, people on the island are very good at giving a distorted picture for their own ends. Never think you have a true picture after talking to a Caulkhead /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
 
Well so you do not know everything then .... interesting !

Yes I am well aware of Council moves over last years and taking over control of the riverside lands ...

As to the "informed" people - they are in fact deeply involved and were not talking about rumour or ill-informed gossip. I am not aloud to say who they are .... but let me put it this way ... I would believe them long before anyone else as I say - they are deeply involved in the scheme.
I also have a Solicitor friend living and working In Newport who later on confirmed a lot of what I had been told.

So if you consider that I have only passed on local inproper gossip - sorry but not true.

What I can say and here I have to be extremely careful - is that most of the development of Newport is driven by one person and his "group" ..... the full intentions and development post riverside is still not clear. Cowes involvement was a significxant part of "pushing" this through and his position / their backing got it through - NOT as I am told by general acceptance. There is opposition to the scheme inside and outside the council .... but of course that cannot be reported until THEY go public. Which probably will not happen.

I have known Newport for many years and enjoyed its character and people ... The HM and his Asst are great people with a warmth of character that makes the visits worthwhile. IF you think that developing Newport and other places is correct and to lose such character - then long may I differ with you and remain in the dark ages ...

Finally I do not label people as you have done ... everyone has their right to opinions and thoughts - right or wrong ... "Caulkheads" - I would not be so rude.
 
Re: Well so you do not know everything then .... interesting !

Interesting as Cowes Harbour held a public information session only a week or two ago and their position is that they don't want to take on Newport until the harbour walls are rebuilt and the river has been dredged - the general feeling is that it won't happen as Newport won't pay for it.

I am always suspicious of 2nd hand unattributable information as it nearly always tracks back to one source of rumour which nobody realises because they all kept their "source" secret. Island solicitors are one of the biggest rumour machines going, which is why for any serious business people generally use mainland firms.

As for labels, you don't know islanders very well do you Nipper? They refer to themselves as Caulkheads and are proud to do so, just as you are an Overner and they will refer to you as such. A true Caulkhead would consider you rude if you thought they were anything else.
 
Oh Really .....

<<I am always suspicious of 2nd hand unattributable information as it nearly always tracks back to one source of rumour which nobody realises because they all kept their "source" secret. Island solicitors are one of the biggest rumour machines going, which is why for any serious business people generally use mainland firms.>>

The Solicitor in question who has to remain in confidence as you must appreciate is not exactly one of your local's .... he lives and works in Newport, was requested to move there some years ago to bring his expertise in Community Law and also his other expertise of Criminal Law. He has the best credentials in Community Law and that of Councils / Social etc. and I shall be pleased to acquaint him of your view.

As to "nipper" .... you can keep to yourself pal - I am not YOUR nipper. As to Islanders names / nicknames etc. - I have always believed that people may call themselves what they want ... but I am an outsider and should be respectful in not using local terminology unless invited ... so not on.

The second-hand information is valid - as it is as directly reported. In fact you have confirmed a part that I purposely left out - the commercialisation and dredging of the river and the actual harbour-area / walls etc. You have also confirmed without realising that the commercialisation is the prime mover and profiteering .... Cowes making that clear ...

So I shall now leave you to whimper in the corner - still convinced you are the fountain of knowledge .... while I shall quietly continue to wander my little merry way around Solent happily enjoying those quaint little harbours and creeks that you seem so agreeable to destroy ...

Ta Ta .....
 
Re: Well so you do not know everything then .... interesting !

Living in Cowes as I do I'm impressed that you find Newport harbour so charming! It has always seemed a bit of a dump to me! What with no facilities, the gay toilets and the dual carriageway overhead.
 
Interesting........

What facilities did you want?

I seem to recall ...pontoon, electricity,toilets and shower all to hand.

All of a reasonable standard and at a reasonable cost.

One of the things I like about the Solent is the variety of places I can visit.

If I want to eat at a bland "chain" restaurant then East Cowes. Ditto East Cowes always seems good if I want to be awake all night listening to the pontoon parties /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Trad yachtie atmosphere..... Yarmouth.

Beach walks... Bembridge.

Etc etc.

I'm not ruling out some updating. BUT...........................

2 things..

I'd hate to see all these places feel the same.

I'm on a budget and having a range of places with differing price points enables me to enjoy my past time.


Jim.
 
Re: Oh Really .....

Oh you are so delicate when challenged aren't you? You don't know that Nipper is a Caulkhead term of endearment either /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. I am not an outsider so I will be free in using local terminology.

I think your solicitor friend is a good example and has demonstrated quite clearly the inability of some island solicitors (native or imported) to keep a confidence. I am interested that a man so well qualified should choose to enter the high powered legal world of the Isle of Wight with it's miriad of multi million pound deals - it is so well known for being at that cutting edge of the legal world /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Please acquaint him with what you wish.

You are the one who claims to be a fountain of knowledge with your "connected" friends(?). I have not imparted anything which is not well and truly within the public domain. I don't think my style can be described as whimpering in the corner and I certainly haven't skulked off in a sulk /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I am afraid that those quaint little harbours and creeks are mostly a romantic little memory of yours and you haven't noticed time has moved on. I love the Solent and have been boating on it in various forms for 40 odd years but I am under no illusions about progress - it will happen whether I like it or not. All I can hope is that I can influence it in some small way to make that progress more palatable and no, I have no financial involvement in any type of development. I have a greater interest than that , I live here.
 
Re: Interesting........ I return for this one ....

East Cowes .... only ?????

Having had the pleasure of 42 Charter boats and their marquee party in WEST Cowes .... and other party animals other times in East Cowes .... no thanks .... not at the prices they charge ...

Newport .... apart from the road bridge - its quiet and my wife and I enjoy it .... dump or not - we like it.

Gay toilets ???? Now thats interesting considering that in the years of going there - haven't seen any evidence of that .... must be an old legend ??

Pontoons are clean, electric available on card so no rip-offs, showers are clean and respectable ....

I am really at a loss to see why Newport should be frwoned on ???? But of course - A-7 comes from swanky Dubarry toting Cowes ! Of course who ever would want to show face in Newport if they come from the Yachting Mecca Cowes ????

As Jimbuoy says ----- us small boat owners are happy with ouir quiet places ..... fore me its harder finding places to enjoy boating as boating ... I'm not into one-upmanship etc. I do not have a swanky boat ... a manky boat yes !! I don't want to pay near 30 quid a night for a 25ft boat to be kept awake by Charter parties etc.

Nope .... Wooton, Bembridge, Newport etc. - fine by me .... and long may they stay as they are ....
 
Re: Oh Really .....

I was beginning to warm to your POV ... I wasn't aware of the meeting you mention, the result of which is reassuring for me. I have no problem with a degree of progress but object to over commercialisation. Especially when it comes to facilities provided by the local council who really shouldn't bow down to commercial pressures only. I've re read your postings and I feel a little more reassured.

But I don't think that playing with Nigel by using local slang helps you to be taken seriously. Mind you, we do seem to be having a three way thread don't we /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The term Caulkhead of course refers to an old and traditional boat building skill.... perhaps we should see progress in this local nickname? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

No offence, you have me and my family intregued. We're interested by your use of the term. Overner (I am one!), I recognise but not Caulkhead. I'm the first generation on my mothers side to not live on the island and my mother can trace her family tree back to the late 1700's. It's not a term I've ever heard and neither has my mother (I've just phoned her...)

Is the term more commonly used by those closely involved with the marine industry? Having said that my mother was great friends with the older generations of the Attrillls.

I will now freely admit to being some what sentimental about the IOW, Bembridge especially.

Do you remember when the Attrills had the Ferry Boat Inn? and Gordon operated the Bembridge brick ferry across the harbour mouth..... happy days!! They stopped operating that ferry when so called safety legislation made it unviable....which struck me as odd having watched Gordon rescue sailing dinghys and inflatables who were struggling against the tide.

Yes it's wrong to live in the past but change for the sake of change isn't always a good thing.

I hope we have a chance to get together some time and to put the world to right!

Cheers

Jim
 
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