SSR renewal

[Birdseye]

Arrived today. After the surprise of finding that it had to be renewed rather than be forever, I was disgusted to find the govt wanting £25 to do so. It used to be £10 and that was robbery. Whatever happened to the idea that you paid for government services, such as they are, through your taxes?

Anyway, I dont see us taking the boat abroad again so I dont intend to renew. Are there any downsides in being unregistered? I'm thinking of resale - the boat is worth somewhere around 70k.

Are you bothering to register your boat?

 

[xyachtdave]

I've renewed mine along with my ICC recently. To be honest I didn't get too upset about the fees involved for the 5 years (I think?) lifespan of these.

I get more annoyed with the nuisance of having to do it rather than paying a few quid for it.

 

[Birdseye]

Funny how the definition of a "few quid" changes as time goes on!

 

[xyachtdave]

Funny how the definition of a "few quid" changes as time goes on!

Sorry, that was in context of the £70k boat!

 

[prv]

I intend to do more foreign trips in future, not fewer, so I will certainly be renewing it.

It shouldn't cause you any trouble if you don't, though.

Pete

 

[Sandy]

I am quite sure that my language skills are not up to asking the man with the gun, "May I have my boat back", when they impound it because it does not have a wee number on the back.

 

[Tranona]

Arrived today. After the surprise of finding that it had to be renewed rather than be forever, I was disgusted to find the govt wanting £25 to do so. It used to be £10 and that was robbery. Whatever happened to the idea that you paid for government services, such as they are, through your taxes?

Anyway, I dont see us taking the boat abroad again so I dont intend to renew. Are there any downsides in being unregistered? I'm thinking of resale - the boat is worth somewhere around 70k.

Are you bothering to register your boat?

Don't see why the taxpayer should pay for something that is only of benefit to you personally. There is no compulsion to register, nor any need if you never take your boat abroad - when it could be worth its weight in gold....

Also can't see what relevance the value of your boat has to do with registering it on the SSR, nor what difference it will make when you sell your boat. The new owner will have to pay the £25 (if he wants to) whether you have it on that register or not. It is NOT a register of title, so means nothing to the buyer.

 

[Koeketiene]

Don't see why the taxpayer should pay for something that is only of benefit to you personally.

You don't pay tax just for what you use.
- Part of my tax goes towards the NHS - even when I'm not ill
- Part of my tax goes towards the MoD - even when I'm not at war with anyone
- Part of my tax goes towards the fire brigade - even when my hous is not on fire
Etc...

 

[Tranona]

You don't pay tax just for what you use.
- Part of my tax goes towards the NHS - even when I'm not ill
- Part of my tax goes towards the MoD - even when I'm not at war with anyone
- Part of my tax goes towards the fire brigade - even when my hous is not on fire
Etc...

But you pay for your driving licence, gun permit, passport, TV licence etc etc.

 

[Birdseye]

Don't see why the taxpayer should pay for something that is only of benefit to you personally. There is no compulsion to register, nor any need if you never take your boat abroad - when it could be worth its weight in gold....

Also can't see what relevance the value of your boat has to do with registering it on the SSR, nor what difference it will make when you sell your boat. The new owner will have to pay the £25 (if he wants to) whether you have it on that register or not. It is NOT a register of title, so means nothing to the buyer.

It isnt of benefit to me at all. I would happily take my boat anywhere without registration - its only governments and their employees who want me to have it. In effect it is a boat passport and like a personal passport its a valueless bit of paper required by bureaucrats

The value of the boat bit was a clumsy way of saying "it isnt a row boat" for which no one would want or need an SSR. Could have been better put.

 

[Birdseye]

But you pay for your driving licence, gun permit, passport, TV licence etc etc.

Yes and the same comment applies to them too.

 

[Seajet]

I never know when I might nip across the Channel, so I keep the paperwork in order.

 

[chinita]

Whatever happened to the idea that you paid for government services, such as they are, through your taxes?

What idea was that?

A couple of years ago I was registering the death of my MiL.

I stood behind a teenage couple trying to register the death of their new born child.

They had to abandon the process as they did not have the required fees.

 

[Birdseye]

What idea was that?

A couple of years ago I was registering the death of my MiL.

I stood behind a teenage couple trying to register the death of their new born child.

They had to abandon the process as they did not have the required fees.

Just about sums it up. You pay twice for government services. First through taxes and then directly when you want the service. How do they manage to pi55 so much money up against the wall? Its an achievement of heroic proportions.

 

[Tranona]

Just about sums it up. You pay twice for government services. First through taxes and then directly when you want the service. How do they manage to pi55 so much money up against the wall? Its an achievement of heroic proportions.

I suggest you read up on the principles of public finances then you might understand why you have to pay for certain services direct. Why should you expect other people to contribute to things that are YOUR choice and only benefit you personally, rather than common goods.

You are not paying twice - only once as those services are not financed out of general taxation.

 

[KenMcCulloch]

What idea was that?

A couple of years ago I was registering the death of my MiL.

I stood behind a teenage couple trying to register the death of their new born child.

They had to abandon the process as they did not have the required fees.

It doesn't cost anything to register a death. The charge is for the issue of certificates.

 

[MinorSwing]

It doesn't cost anything to register a death. The charge is for the issue of certificates.

You can't administer the estate without certificates.

 

[maby]

Funny how the definition of a "few quid" changes as time goes on!

It's called inflation!

 

[maby]

It isnt of benefit to me at all. I would happily take my boat anywhere without registration - its only governments and their employees who want me to have it. In effect it is a boat passport and like a personal passport its a valueless bit of paper required by bureaucrats

The value of the boat bit was a clumsy way of saying "it isnt a row boat" for which no one would want or need an SSR. Could have been better put.

Our government doesn't give a monkeys whether you register it or not. If you have a gripe, it's with some officious EU government that like to see everything registered.

 

[chinita]

You can't administer the estate without certificates.

Thank you; and I doubt this poor couple couple bury their child without one.

Plus, additional Certificates are charged out at many times the cost of the photocopying.