SSR or Registry of shipping and Seamen?

[Stevie_T]

I am just in the process of buying a yacht which has a Certificate of British Registry but am unsure whether to re register her here or to register with SSR?

Ca anyone explain the differences, advantages/disadvantages?

Thanks

 

[ubuysa]

You should find all the info you need at the MCA here.

Tony C

 

[Seafort]

If the yacht is registered "Part 1" now, then IMO it's worth the 80 quid or so not to have numbers "Prominently displayed" and spoiling the look. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

However the absence of such may increase the visits from officialdom.

Dave.

 

[snowleopard]

the biggest cost of part 1 registry is the initial survey which has been done for you. as part 1 provides proof of ownership it's worth keeping up.

 

[Stevie_T]

Thanks for the replies, all being well then I will keep up part1, mind there is a small VAT crisis at the moment so I hope I can resolve this and continue the purchase.

 

[trouville]

If you have part 1 then why would you change? My part 1 lasts not just for 5 years but the life of the ship or untill sold out of British reg.

Ive had my Hillyard for more than 20 years that is equall to 4X £5 for the SSR!!
and you dont have to remember the renew!!

Part 1 shows the ownership history and is far more impressive document!

If the boat comes with part1 i cant see why you ask the question? unlss your not British!!??

 

[Stevie_T]

I ask the question trouville, because I am new to yacht ownership and didn't know the difference, re-registering the vessel is just one minor part of the whole conundrum I am now going through, especially as the yacht is currently outside of the EU but has been fully VAT paid by her owner.

 

[tome]

Trouville, some bad news for you.

The part 1 registration no longer lasts for the life of the vessel, it has to be renewed every 5 years. They don't issue reminders, it's up to you to remember to renew.

Hope this doesn't ruin your day!
Tom

 

[trouville]

Ohh!! But like the green driveing licence valid for life. My large blue book with fold out registary details says nothing about expireing??

Im quite sure your correct, and do vaugly remember something about Gorden brown and tony blair taxeing the sailing fraternity untill only the new socalist rich could aford a boat,

But ive been sailing around the same places for soooo long in the same boat every capatanerie knows me and by now i never have to show my papers!Well not very often

I wonder what would happen if i sailed back to the UK??I thought about it but couldent see the point,but if i wanted to stay at St Katherins dock for a couple of months as "floating flat" Would you say my blue book part 1 would be invald?
Would i have to augment it with an SSR??

Do you know if the part 1 renewal is £5 as well or has the price increesed? I expect so!

Im now going to open a bottle of good Bordeaux to get over shock!! And hope everyone else uses SSR then no one in Europe would ever know tha part 1 has become renewable?? They do still provide the impressive blue book? Dont they

 

[BrendanS]

see here f- very informative
http://www.cruising.org.uk/rereg.htm

 

[tome]

I'm sorry to say that registration of part 1 is more expensive - £46 every 5 years. To make matters worse, because you have allowed more than a year to elapse your fine Hillyard is no longer registered and you would need a re-survey to gain part 1 registration. This will be expensive so perhaps SSR would be better for you?

There's worse to come. They no longer issue the nice blue book but instead give you a rather ordinary piece of computer generated A4 paper in a laminated folder.

However, take heart. You still have the blue book as a souvenir of old times!

 

[Stevie_T]

Trouville, perhaps if you had been British you would have known that LMAO /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[trouville]

I am English and my family and i have lived in England for more than 800 years.

£46! then clearly Tony blair has been advised companies leaseing a boat wont mind such a fee and couldent care how the paper is presented.

I will continue to present my now invalid? but in keeping with a classic boat;document. Saddly she will have to remain in the Med an excile.

 

[Guest]

Except that you don't need any registration at all in Britain, valid or invalid, so why be concerned?