Sportscruiser or Flybridge?

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Ooooh! Now we can't decide. Sealine F36 vs Fairline Targa 39. What would you do?

I know all the arguments - shafts vs legs, covered accomodation vs getting wet in the rain etc. Both boats offer the accomodation we want, but we can't decide between 'boy racer' and 'pipe and slippers'... Help!

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Pipe & slippers indeed, nothing oldmanish about my F36, and I've even shaved me beard off.
As its England the case for the F36 is stronger possibly due to inclement weather.
Now if you were out here sports cruiser yes.
The F36 was bought with school boat in mind otherwise I would probably have gone
for a sports cruiser. Just a small point you get a better impression and thus appreciation,
of speed from cruiser as Flybridge tends to isolate such.

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Re: I know.

I just keep remembering the Mercury bash, slogging up the Solent into horizontal drizzle and thinking, "I could be down below, nice and dry in a flybridge, with a cup of cocoa and a rug over my knees..."

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But no patio to sit on and watch the sunset...

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No patio? whats the cockpit on the F36 then, even has patio doors into cabin AT SAME LEVEL
no faffing about up and down stairs with drinks,...... lovely.
Plus as you say second cosy helm sheltered from wind rain and sea spray, you can even shut
the door and put the heating and wireless on.

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Re: Confusion reigns...

That's what you get for posting several replies in the same thread... The F36 HAS a patio, and I quite fancy sitting on it with a bottle of something appropriate and watching the sunset. Whereas, you can't on the Targa...

Despite your protests, your comment about 'putting the wireless on' gives the game away, though. I bet you sit there with a mug of Horlicks, listening to The Archers on the Home Service, don't you?

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in the uk, if you are year-round boating, a flybridge is more useable i think, the main reason being - zips.

There's a whole load of canvas and poppering on the targas (or any crusier) which only ever makes real sense in the med - when you can leave just the bimini up from the minute you arrive to the day you leave. Uk nightime is too cold for that, and you want to be out in the nice big deck space..but that means putting the sides and back on. And taking it off in the morning. And putting it back on. But then you can't see over the screen, so need to lift up the front bit, so the sides have to go too, and the back, and puttem all back when the trip is over.



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Re: Not quite year round

but the first outing this year was the first week in May, and we hope to still be out into early October. This summer we have had many days where the covers stayed off for days on end - the sides and top only go up at night early and late in the season.

I dunno what to do, I really don't. Except go and look at some more boats...

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Re: Not quite year round

Im having the same dilema Graham between a princess 360 or a V40, totally agree with Matts description of the canvass saga ,bloody pain.I was out on a friends Covette the other day hit a few large waves, in my targa as you are standing up no problem but sitting on a flybridge it hurts your bum, maybe the seats are better on other flybridges.(have to speak kindly to Moose see if i can hitch a quick ride on his Phantom.)

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Graham,

We went through the same decision last year, and we ended up going for our Targa 39. When we first saw her on the sales stand we said it was a great boat, but only OK in the med. We looked at lots of flybridge boats and got quite serious about a phantom but when push came to shove I didn't like th enclosed feel about the flybridge boats when you're down below. It's like being in a house and we go boating to get away from all that stuff. Also, we only found that the flybridge was really useable for entertaining on big boats, otherwise due to space restriction you end up with half your party in the cockpit (in the shade) and the other half on the flybridge which isn't very social. I wouldn't consider a flybridge unless you are over 14m LOA.

Yes, with our Targa you get wet if it rains, but very rarely do we get wet with salt water, the hull shape pushes the spray well away. So, we have a full set of wet weather gear on board, which is no great hassle as it doesn't often rain when we are out at sea, and if it does it's no great hardship. You must make sure that all your electronics at the helm are waterproof.

The great upside with the Targa is a teriffic amount of same level deck space which is great for just "being on board" which we tend to do a lot of.

The canopy's up and down, as discussed elsewhere on this thread can be a pain but we have got in to a routine and can go from completely up to completely down, and vice versa, in about five minutes. No great shakes. The key here is to look after the zips (plenty of candle wax) which makes the job easy.

Don't listen too much to all the talk of outdrives being a bad news - difficult to steer I've heard said plus other accusations. We've gone from shafts to outdrives and I have no complaints. The boat is terrifically manouverable.

We have just spend five months on board our Targa, we took her down to La Rochelle and back and the boat performed superbly.

The Targa 39 is a great boat, if you've found a good one, then go for it.

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I had a big Sunseeker tied up to me last week. It did not look just as impresive with the blokes head stuck through the tent top in the pouring rain...../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Re: Too big.

Wouldn't fit in Rossiters. For those who we've introduced to the place, you'll know why we don't want to move out.

For the rest of you, sod off. You'd never get in to Christchurch anyway. There's a horrible bar at the entrance, no water, no bouys, no visitors mooring. And dragons and sea monsters. Probably. And pirates, too, I expect. So just go away.

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Re: oh alright then

tcm,

luvly idea, but i ain't got T48 kinda scheckles mon ami!

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Re: just right

T48 draws less than lots of sailyboats, and is only bout a foot wider than the 39. Also nice shafts. Worth a look. Anyway, don't believe all that maximum length malarky, just pitch up and they all run round to help. I did this in a little place in the med, the HM ran off with his boat, we took over the whole fuel pontoon overhanging both ends and then spent 3hours filling up cos their pumps were crap and our inlet is 2m higher than their pump. Er, well, i mean you don't have to be a git to have a bigger boat, of course. Mind you, it might suit you very well :) PLUS spare room er cabin for visitors to stay.

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Re: just right

"T48 draws less than lots of sailyboats"

Hmm, but we don't have or want a sailyboat, sorry. And in the case of Christchurch, it's length that's the problem, not girth. Fnarr, fnarr.

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Re: tsk!

"but we don't want a sailyboat, sorry" I know, i was using sailyboats as a comparison of the depth they draw.

Alright, it draws about the same depth as um the height of Marilyn Monroe. And it is only longer than the T39 by the width of er two ferarris, Well, a bit less. One ferari, and another one one a bit sawn off, cept i know you wouldn't want a sawnoff ferrari, but er

Also, there's a nice hammerhead at rossiters. Wd definitely fit there. Heehee.

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