Sports boat severe broach with man overboard

A good bit of sailing, before & after the broach.

Interesting the MOB was up-sun, making spotting very difficult; that's not often considered in MOB theoretical exercises.

Looks like they were wearing buoyancy aids not lifejackets, most definitely better than nothing - and B.A.'s are good padding 'body armour' in the hurly burly of racing.

Detachable guardrails at the cockpit obviously proved their worth.

Would have been an idea to have the washboard/s in !
 
10 minutes + seems like quite a long time to get back to the MOB.

Being as it was off Cape Town I wonder how many of those minutes the skipper spent thinking about the inhabitants of the local waters. :eek:
 
salinia said:
If you haven't seen it already...it's worth a look. The crew did a great job in retreiving the man overboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt1j7wiS5Zk&feature=player_detailpage
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Good piece of film - is it a J80? Broach seemed very sudden and I'm wondering if a hard bear-away/spinny sheet ease when the gust hit may have kept the boat on it's feet, but perhaps the rudder was already losing grip. Mind you a hard bear-away could have resulted in a chinese gybe which could have been worse.

Any way a good piece of work getting back to the skipper under sail.

I've only once (thank goodness and touching wood) seen a man-overboard when the foredeck took a graceful dive over the side during a spinnaker drop in Cowes Week many years ago - summer, warm and force 4/5. We got him back on fairly quickly and he was quite relaxed in the water with his lifejacket - not so his wife in our cockpit!
 
i was impressed with the crews reaction to let the kicker off in the gusts, very quick and succeeded to keep to the boom out of the water on the first big gust that hit them.
 
Neale,

I thought the same, then considered that they were still doing a good lick when the helm went over so travelled a fair way from him, then had to hand the kite, then go back up wind under main alone and could see where the time went.
 
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Davy_S said:
Thought it was a Pacer 27?
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Yes - a Pacer 27. I'm supposed to do a couple of double-handed races aboard one in Sweden this summer. Looks like it could be sporty.

10 minutes not surprising in those conditions.
 
One thing; as others have mentioned they were still going at a fair speed after the skipper went over, but a lifebouy & danbuoy for him to swim to would probably have been rather handy, and bearing mind the waves & bright sunshine might have been crucial - I got the impression they were lucky to spot or keep sight of him.

NB one crew dedicated to pointing towards him; good practice, but exactly the sort of thing mentioned in books, articles & RYA exams, a luxury only available to large or racing crews, not the average man & wife team...
 
Karouise said:
Did surprise me after the broach that the mob couldnt just swim back to the boat. 10 mins in 11C water is quite a wait.
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Wearing a life jacket, he can't swim at any speed. And the boat would have left him behind before he had a chance to try. Even broached, it is still moving fast. Those conditions were rough.

We lost a crew OB just as we finished a race on the Croach. In very benign conditions we were relaxed on a run, then accidently jibed. He was swept off the cabin top. The gun went, as we hurriedly spun round to pick him up. The race commitee were a bit confused, but gave us a second gun when we re-crossed the line. Point was, it happened very quickly and the helm tried to grab him as he went past, not a hope. Admittedly we were not paying attention, if the conditions had been anything like the vid. we would have been mega careful.
 
I think he and the rest were wearing buoyancy aids - under their waterproofs - not full lifejackets, so once he regained his composure I expect he was able to swim, but the boat was too far away travelling too fast; hence my remark earlier that a lifebuoy & danbuoy to throw for him to swim to might have been rather handy.
 
Seajet said:
A good bit of sailing, before & after the broach.

Interesting the MOB was up-sun, making spotting very difficult; that's not often considered in MOB theoretical exercises.

Looks like they were wearing buoyancy aids not lifejackets, most definitely better than nothing - and B.A.'s are good padding 'body armour' in the hurly burly of racing.

Detachable guardrails at the cockpit obviously proved their worth.

Would have been an idea to have the washboard/s in !
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I'm not sure how you can describe it as a good bit of sailing if it involves broaching and parting company with your own boat.
 
EdBeynon said:
I'm not sure how you can describe it as a good bit of sailing if it involves broaching and parting company with your own boat.
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If you push to the limit things will happen.

Rally/ Race drivers do not intend to crash but it will happen from time. Still does not make them bad drivers...

No different to sailing...

Try it with your crew spinikar up in lessa conditions, simulate a MOB and see how long it takes them to recover the dummy...

I would be proud of that crew...
 
onesea said:
If you push to the limit things will happen.

Rally/ Race drivers do not intend to crash but it will happen from time. Still does not make them bad drivers...

No different to sailing...

Try it with your crew spinikar up in lessa conditions, simulate a MOB and see how long it takes them to recover the dummy...

I would be proud of that crew...
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I generally single hand so if I simulate a man overboard I'm pretty much stuffed.
 
EdBeynon said:
I generally single hand so if I simulate a man overboard I'm pretty much stuffed.
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Biggest bucket tied to a fender is the norm? for simulation. Last time I wanted to be the dummy I was told I was not allowed :rolleyes:.

Must admit often single hand and as Karouise said earlier "I know the value of staying onboard - there is no one to come back for me."

Even with crew I point out that if they go over odds of coming back unhurt may not be great, rules:

1) Do not fall over the side.
2) If you do go over the side HOLD on to anything.
 
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