Speed cameras (obviously nb)

[itsonlymoney]

I think I got zapped by a mobile speed camera this morning. You know the sort in a van with the back doors open.
Question is how far do they have to record your speed, is it 100yds or 1/4 mile etc. Hopefully the latter cos I dont think he had the chance for more than a few hundred yards or so. Also what speed do they normally allow over, I was doing about 36mph in a 30mph zone.
Ian

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[PhilF]

Probably only 3 years in prison nowadays

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[itsonlymoney]

Very funny /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[AIDY]

/forums/images/icons/smile.gif Or even worse a ban from using your boat for a year Ahhhhhh....... /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[boatone]

I seem to remember a formula of the base speed plus 10% plus 3mph which in your case would be 36 so I guess you'll just have to sweat it out for a while.
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[MikeBrazier]

I think that automatic camera's will allow up to 45 mph in a 30 mph area. The GATSO camera's around here are set up like that anyway.

You will know in a few days anyhow, but you should be okay!

Regards,
Mike.

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[PIGLETSDREAM]

Got done on a fixed camera in Portsmouth three weeks ago at 35mph.

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[adarcy]

<<100yds or 1/4 mile >>

Err I don't think so, the painted lines for fixed cameras are surely 25 yards max so I regret to say you may have to sweat it out for a bit

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[itsonlymoney]

That puts my mind at rest

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[itsonlymoney]

That does'nt /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[itsonlymoney]

Neither does that /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[duncan]

As I understand it (1) It's a video with speed readings from radar as you pass through the picture (2) the tolerance will be decided depending on the reason the team have been put in place - many now have zero tolerance in sensitive places.

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[itsonlymoney]

It just gets better and better !!!!

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[AlexL]

the policy used to be +10% + a little bit but now the police keep the money themselves then they have zero tolerance ('coz it earns more dosh). However its only 3 points and 60 quid, so its no biggy really.
Insurance companies know that its just a money earner and won't load up your insurance for speeding (i've had 2 speeding bans and 3 fixed penalties in the last 5-6 years and still my insurance is unaffected). If you really were doing 36 I should think you will get done - however the good news is that the tolerance on your speedo will mean it allways overeads - ie. if it said 36 you were definately doing no more than 36, probably more like 33-35.

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[britemp]

I've been zapped by similar mobile cameras 3 times now and had all three dropped. The facts:

1. If you do not receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution within 14 days of the alleged offence you've got away with it!

2. If you receive a NIP, sign it telling them who the driver was, send it back without payment and ignore all further correspondence. The form tells you if you wish to take it to court, you should just ignore the NIP and wait. The courts do not have time to prosecute petty speeding offences so invariably they are dropped if you insist on going to court - my three were. This only works if you were exceeding the limit by less than 20mph.

3. You have no right to see the photo evidence or the certificate of calibration for the device used to convict you until you go to court. This is because the courts do not want you to insist on a court case - they will of course drop it.

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[Newbieknownowt]

don't think that's right (or else someone's miscalibrated the gatsos in your area) - my missus got 3 points and £60 for doing 43mph in a 30 zone (and I got to pay the increased insurance premium - more than £60!). IIRC, if you're more than 50% over the limit (ie 45 in a 30) you have to appear before the magistrates in person and risk a higher penalty than the straight 3 points/£60.

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[Its_Only_Money]

Ian, most technology reads instantaneously these days, either radar or laser, the only reason speed cameras have the white lines is because they take two pictures a fixed time apart, the lines then give references that can be produced in court if you challenge the speed - but this is the only reason, the offence is now speeding over a couple of inches distance if that, not like the old days when a patrol car had to follow you for 1/4 (1/2?) mile.

Gets my goat this business, a proper test of dangerous driving is your insurance risk, the fact that insurance companies don't load you for 2 speeding offences (used to be one didn't it?), implies that you are no greater risk than without????

Agree with the comment about your speedo, see if you can check it against a handheld GPS while you wait for the post to arrive - do they still have to issue the ticket within 10 days???

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[oldgit]

Insurance Companies.........O yes they do by golly.

The proud announcement of receiving a fixed penalty ticket(in my case 45 in a 30mph)resulted in an increase in premium of about 10%.The fixed penalty fine certainly slowed me down very effectively.
Those Gatso cameras are their to save lives and the police do not "keep the income".
Please be my guest and volunteer your services the next time the police need someone to pop round and break the good news to someone that their family member has just been seriously injured by a driver who thinks that limits are merely another little minor irritant to be overcome by us busy busy driving folk. After all those tedious limits are only there for drivers less skilled than ourselves./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif


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[britemp]

Re: Insurance Companies.........O yes they do by golly.

Hmmm. . . .Gatso's are there to save lives? They aren't very good at it then are they? In the past 10 years the number of tickets issued by machines (rather then policemen) went from 20,000 per annum to over 1 million. During the same period the average number of people killed on the roads stayed resolutely the same at 3000 per annum. £60 million worth of fines to save not 1 extra life.

During that same time police patrols have largely been replaced by cameras on non-motorway roads. When you drive through a speed camera you get 3 points and a £60 fine. When a drunk driver, with no insurance, no tax and bald tyres drives through a camera, he or she also gets £60 and 3 points. If they had been stopped by a policeman the outcome would have been very different. Swapping experienced police officers for dumb machines is not my idea of improving road safety.

Not that speed figures very highly on the causes of accidents. Even the Dept. of Transport rates it only 7th. I wonder what they are doing about the 6 more important causes of accidents:

Inattention
Failure to judge other's path or speed
Looking but not seeing
Careless and reckless behaviour
Failure to look
Lack of judgement of own path

Source: Department of Transport

Nothing of course - there is no easy way to generate revenue from the real causes of accidents and death.


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[Its_Only_Money]

Re: Insurance Companies.........O yes they do by g

Agree with what you say and remember that "speed is a factor" is not the same as "exceeding the speed limit is a factor".

The Govt est was 100 lives saved per annum???? Even the annual figures vary by more than that year-to-year as far as I can remember, averaging 3000pa as you say....

Lets have more coppers back on the roads policing actual bad driving (including pure speeding where appropriate)!

OG, I'd suggest you change insurance Co, there are plenty that don't bat an eyelid at 1 fixed ticket (although you were lucky to get a FPT as you were 50% over the limit, that is potential court/ban territory)

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