southampton to teignmouth this weekend

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Taking my 29ft Colvic Sunquest to Teignmouth on Sunday,(Sat looks too wet). Plotted an arc from Needles to Teignmouth missing the Bill by approx 5 miles. Not having ventured past the infamous race before, and assuming weather not too boisterous, can I expect a relatively easy trip at this distance, speed 15kts? My boat a planing hull,twin Volvo AD31DP,s.
 
there is an inner passage at the bill if the tides right..... you need to be able to throw a stone at the people on the bill, if not youre not in the inner passage.
 
If the weathers ok, I'd take the inner passage, if it's not ok I would'nt go at all!!

Keep to the left of the chanel going into Teignmouth, then head for the pontoons when there on your starboard side.
 
I d take a good look at tide and wind direction.
5 miles off should be fine, but avoiding the race at full tilt whichever way you go will make that part of the trip a little more relaxing for a first time. Seeing raging white water a hundred yards away might not be what you are after !
If its good conditions, its quite a nice trip along Lyme Bay's shoreline, which is of course a bit easier if you take the inside round the Bill.It adds maybe ten miles. If its a bit so-so, I wouldnt add the extra miles. That bay seems to go on forever !
 
Are you saying you would take the inside line and follow the coast to avoid the boredom of the trip across lyme Bay? My plan is to get to Teignmouth(my original home town) ASAP. However,taking tide and wind into consideration,I would abandon the trip if it was a bit iffy. Might follow the coast on the way back. My initial enquiry was to establish if 5 miles out would clear me of the race. Norman.
 
it should clear you of the worst of the race, yes, if the weather is ok. You might not even need to be that far depending on the state of the tide. I d take a good look at the almanac and see if you can time it right.
I ve had more unpleasant trips across the Bay than I have round the Bill.The Bill might be a few lumpy minutes.. the bay, a few lumpy hours !
 
Yes,I think that puts me in the picture,and many thanks for your interest. As a Teignmouth lad,I spent all my time on the waters around the Teign and Devon, way back . This is my first trip from Southampton to my old home. Norman.
 
I got "Old Bill" wrong last year.
I naively thought that a couple of miles off would take me well away from the race - it didnt and we had a short spell where water broke over the flybridge - and that was on a 20m Princess.

I certainly agree with HLB - go close in (very close in) or not at all.
 
tangerine said:
Taking my 29ft Colvic Sunquest to Teignmouth on Sunday,(Sat looks too wet). Plotted an arc from Needles to Teignmouth missing the Bill by approx 5 miles. Not having ventured past the infamous race before, and assuming weather not too boisterous, can I expect a relatively easy trip at this distance, speed 15kts? My boat a planing hull,twin Volvo AD31DP,s.
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Have a good trip and let us know how you got on.
I was planning on spending a night in Teignmouth a couple of weeks ago but the sea-state put me off so I didn't go.
There are only 2 short pontoons available for visitors so it may be wise to get there early.
I expect you'll have to raft up at least.
 
Use the inside passage at the BILL

I’m heading form Portsmouth to Dartmouth on Saturday – we will get wet but we need to get west. I intend to use the inside passage at the Bill.
I ALWAYS try to use this passage as it saves a lot on distance and is (despite what others may have read) quite easy. You need to be within 200m of the bill itself but as long as you are travelling with the tide (or slack water) it is usually very calm unless there is a 6 or more from the south west it’s fine.
Good sailing
:D
 
water over the flybridge !! we don't seem to be able to go anywhere without it.

Teignmough is lovely, no one seems to go there, was a while ago now, but there was always loads of room on the pontoons when we went there. Never had to raft up. The great helpfull & friendly harbourmaster complained to us that no one goes there.

& take you pick of the pub on the beach to land to in your dinghy.
 
deborahann said:
water over the flybridge !! we don't seem to be able to go anywhere without it.

Teignmough is lovely, no one seems to go there, was a while ago now, but there was always loads of room on the pontoons when we went there. Never had to raft up. The great helpfull & friendly harbourmaster complained to us that no one goes there.

& take you pick of the pub on the beach to land to in your dinghy.
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We stopped there for a few hours about 18 months ago - managed to get on a pontoon alright but it was "out of season". So which was the best pub?
 
We stopped there for a few hours about 18 months ago - managed to get on a pontoon alright but it was "out of season". So which was the best pub?

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Cant remember really, suppose it depends what you want, there all fairly basic, but great for sitting out on/near the beach.

Tuther great thing is. HM asks size of boat, then knocks a few feet off, it about half the price of other places.
 
Southampton to Teignmouth

With HW Teignmouth at 1640 you'll presumably plan to arrive a couple of hours before that, passing the Needles at tennish. The scenic route close to St Albans and Portland Bill is attractive but if the wind veers W or even NW as forecast you'll have wind over tide all the way - might even consider North Channel to avoid lumpy Shingles - so from there best avoid the inshore passages and stick to your Great Circle route.

The RYA now acknowledges MoBos and Yachtmaster passage planning encourages us to leave when wind and tide are both adverse for a smoother ride; you might consider that option before crossing the Bay. Timing will be wrong at the other end, necessitating anchoring below the Ness to wait for enough water over the Bar which dries at datum.

Do tell us how you get on.
 
" You can get into Teignmouth any old time, forget what the almanac says."

you haven't seen it on a Spring ebb in an onshore gale then?
Used to live down that way and it was a favourite evening sail from Brixham for us instructors at the sailing school - but not always!
 
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If it was going to stay Westerly 4 all day, it would be very tempting to to do the coast hugging route to stop two hours of slap into 1 meter waves.
Sunday it looks like it starts Westerly 3, then backs Southerly 4, so more on your port beam, which is probably OK. But we are fair weather boaters.....
 
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