alant
Well-Known Member
OK you knowlegeable lot,
what does .......- (seven short & one long) mean?
what does .......- (seven short & one long) mean?
Sound Signals
- Thread starter alant
- Start date
jimi
Well-Known Member
Please clarify your intentions, I'm approaching a bend in the channel
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
Is this to do with the Village People?
Neraida
Well-Known Member
7 or more short followed by one long blast is abandon ship. Skipper says it also means 'bloody hell, it's Sunday morning and I've got to get up and do lifeboat drill'
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
So, tell me, what is the point of a code if no sod knows what it means? We're all sat at ease at computers now, out on the water will you have the faintest idea what a sequence of blasts means? Will you even have started counting before the third blast?
Neraida
Well-Known Member
It's primarily a signal to the ship's company and it would be in the emergency procedures and most people who can interpret sound signals know all too well what the abandon ship signal is.
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
most people who can interpret sound signals know all too well what the abandon ship signal is.
[/ QUOTE ] Percentages?
If it's for shipboard use, how about a Tannoy announcement, "Abandon Ship"?
Isn't it about time we had a re-assesment of the Mystery of Seafairing?
most people who can interpret sound signals know all too well what the abandon ship signal is.
[/ QUOTE ] Percentages?
If it's for shipboard use, how about a Tannoy announcement, "Abandon Ship"?
Isn't it about time we had a re-assesment of the Mystery of Seafairing?
Neraida
Well-Known Member
Percentages? People going out on the water surely know the sound signals (1 for starboard, 2 for port etc) ?
Tannoys require electricity and if a ship's going down there may be a power problem. The ship's whistle and/or foghorn or whatever you want to call it is a pneumatic system. In normal emergency situations, a ship's general alarm will sound which is either bells or modern sirens. The abandon ship signal would need to be heard on deck over weather condition, funnel noise etc (the lifeboat deck is normally near the engine room vents) so no, it's not a mystery and as a passenger reads about fire escapes etc, they would also read this information. Besides, crew know and they would be assisting passengers.
Tannoys require electricity and if a ship's going down there may be a power problem. The ship's whistle and/or foghorn or whatever you want to call it is a pneumatic system. In normal emergency situations, a ship's general alarm will sound which is either bells or modern sirens. The abandon ship signal would need to be heard on deck over weather condition, funnel noise etc (the lifeboat deck is normally near the engine room vents) so no, it's not a mystery and as a passenger reads about fire escapes etc, they would also read this information. Besides, crew know and they would be assisting passengers.
Lakesailor
Well-Known Member
Well the response to the question clearly shows that people do not know the sound signals. Maybe just the basics.
And do the controls for sound signals still rely on mechanical means, or are some electronics involved?
And do the controls for sound signals still rely on mechanical means, or are some electronics involved?
Neraida
Well-Known Member
Knowing sound signals is part of good seamanship. Re electronics, there will always be a manual way of emitting the signal.
ShipsWoofy
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
Well the response to the question clearly shows that people do not know the sound signals. Maybe just the basics.
And do the controls for sound signals still rely on mechanical means, or are some electronics involved?
[/ QUOTE ]
The question was answered so no further need for anyone new to answer, oh hang on, ok I know, It means go to muster stations / abandon ship. I did actually know this, used to hear the Mersey ferries safety brief when I used the ferry to Liverpool to go to college.
Well the response to the question clearly shows that people do not know the sound signals. Maybe just the basics.
And do the controls for sound signals still rely on mechanical means, or are some electronics involved?
[/ QUOTE ]
The question was answered so no further need for anyone new to answer, oh hang on, ok I know, It means go to muster stations / abandon ship. I did actually know this, used to hear the Mersey ferries safety brief when I used the ferry to Liverpool to go to college.
tcm
...
hm, well i'm with lakesailor on this one, and we're going to jolly well sit in our deckchairs and complain about the rubbish service and dreadful hooting noise which probably means something most likely that the hooter has gone bonkers, and if it IS abandon ship why on earth is it never EVER in a saftey briefing or even YM course so er glubble splash ooer...
tcm
...
easy.
it is an approaching slalom speedboat, in fog.
it is an approaching slalom speedboat, in fog.
landaftaf
Well-Known Member
your answer is a load of bollocks
after 36 yrs at sea I can assure you the abandon ship signal has always been by word of mouth by the master, or his designate
the emergency alarm (as opposed to fire alarm) is often 7 short and one long rings on the alarm bells sometimes supplemented by the sounding of the ships whistle ...... this is what ppl may have heard
however the yanks have their own methods of doing almost everything, so are you possibly refering to them, as I am aware they have some sound signal to abandon ship ...... daft when you think about it dont you think ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
after 36 yrs at sea I can assure you the abandon ship signal has always been by word of mouth by the master, or his designate
the emergency alarm (as opposed to fire alarm) is often 7 short and one long rings on the alarm bells sometimes supplemented by the sounding of the ships whistle ...... this is what ppl may have heard
however the yanks have their own methods of doing almost everything, so are you possibly refering to them, as I am aware they have some sound signal to abandon ship ...... daft when you think about it dont you think ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Solitaire
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
your answer is a load of bollocks
[/ QUOTE ] I take it you don't agree then! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
your answer is a load of bollocks
[/ QUOTE ] I take it you don't agree then! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Neraida
Well-Known Member
Then they must have changed the training, and my company did it wrong while i was at sea. The old man was always a welshman...
Fortunately, i am NOWHERE NEAR old enough to have spent 36 years at sea, in fact, that would mean i would have done my cadetship at -5.
Anyhoo, I answered that question doing my ticket, and I didnt fail! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Fortunately, i am NOWHERE NEAR old enough to have spent 36 years at sea, in fact, that would mean i would have done my cadetship at -5.
Anyhoo, I answered that question doing my ticket, and I didnt fail! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
landaftaf
Well-Known Member
the wonders of the english language ...... so flowery dont you think ? I was wondering why chirac wasnt told that the other day, dont you ? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Neraida
Well-Known Member
in fact I am corrected. The DOT states that the signal for abandon ship is the "General Alarm", seven short (<2.5 seconds) followed by one long (>4 seconds) and on the Master or his designates signal the signal .-.- should be sounded.
See, not to big to admin that i was wrong. So, I say this. The sound signal ......- should be interpreted as "General Alarm"
I'm going to get flamed now arent i?
See, not to big to admin that i was wrong. So, I say this. The sound signal ......- should be interpreted as "General Alarm"
I'm going to get flamed now arent i?
landaftaf
Well-Known Member
what company did you work for ....... and when ?
as stated earlier the abandon ship signal is in fact a verbal command - sound signals are used to muster
if you are suggesting a combination of sound signals would order you overboard then I am flabergasted ........ if you have ever been involved in anything 'exiting' at sea then you will be aware that ppl mishear and misinterpret emergency signals
as for your passing your ticket, I am astonished you passed with an answer like that - was it done under the dot/mca ?
so when you hear seven short and one long blast on the whistle you jump overboard huh - I think not
/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
as stated earlier the abandon ship signal is in fact a verbal command - sound signals are used to muster
if you are suggesting a combination of sound signals would order you overboard then I am flabergasted ........ if you have ever been involved in anything 'exiting' at sea then you will be aware that ppl mishear and misinterpret emergency signals
as for your passing your ticket, I am astonished you passed with an answer like that - was it done under the dot/mca ?
so when you hear seven short and one long blast on the whistle you jump overboard huh - I think not
/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Neraida
Well-Known Member
Oh dear.
I apologise most humbly for my mistake. I deserve to be chastised and flogged.
I worked under the agency "Clyde Marine Training" for some 5 years. 1991 -1996.
If you require further proof i will dig out my discharge book, borrow a flatbed scanner, scan it and email it to you. Maybe so you can have me Class 4/E ticket revoked?
I am not to big to admit i made a mistake. Be a gentleman and be bloody gratious about it?
I apologise most humbly for my mistake. I deserve to be chastised and flogged.
I worked under the agency "Clyde Marine Training" for some 5 years. 1991 -1996.
If you require further proof i will dig out my discharge book, borrow a flatbed scanner, scan it and email it to you. Maybe so you can have me Class 4/E ticket revoked?
I am not to big to admit i made a mistake. Be a gentleman and be bloody gratious about it?
