Sorry but nearly turned to the other side

[AlJones]

Oops gone to the dark side!

Going out on a Shetland 4x2, called Sweet Pea.


Out board engine, Going to teach new owner

Any help with a Shetty 4x2 anyone?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Anyone?................


Al.

Oh By The Way Hi every one!

 

[photodog]

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Shetty 4x2

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Is that a new SUV from Tata?

 

[AlJones]

Might Be Aint got a clue big man!

 

[B175Chris]

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Shetty 4x2

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Is that a new SUV from Tata?

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[photodog]

In my experience, with a little Merry Fisher, the buggers dont want to turn without a positive application of power... which can lead to a lot more speed than you want....

So, you put the wheel hard over, put in gear, she starts to turn and pick up speed, so you drop out of gear, and suddenly she doesnt want to turn anymore.. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

After all these yachts, and I used to have a twin outdrive boat, I found it surprisingly surprising.... so a little caution might be in order until you get a feel ..

 

[AlJones]

Now thats what I wanted to hear!

Thanks a million for that, power back when she bites then on the turn then?

 

[photodog]

Well, I wouldnt want to give any specific advice!! (Youll just blame me for the ensuing catastrophe...) But I think these single OB's you gotta kinda think like you are driving your dingy... think about how unmanouvarable those things actually are....

Really, I would just say, dont be over confident, be cautious... The one I drove recently did not behave as I expected!!

So, coming into a finger berth, If I just turned her in, I ended up with too much speed.. (As she would only turn when power was on..) so I lined her up early and then cut the power... So I guess you kinda have to get your manouvering in early, unlike the yacht which has a big rudder, so if you take off the power she continues the turn...

Its different, and that caught me out at first. I thought It would be a lot more like driving any other single engined boat.
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[Rum_Pirate]

I owned a Shetland Sun Trip boat serial #2221 made in 1972 for a number of years.

Had a 3 cylinder 65hp Mercury, then the stern was beefed up and a 70hp Yamaha was attached.

Watch for prop paddlewheel effect at slow speeds.

What size engine does this 'Pea' have?

 

[Kawasaki]

The 4+2 Shetland.
Quite high sided / lot of freeboard.
For slow quarters manouvering.
Do not be tempted to give it 'loads' however.

Stick the wheel the way you want to go and just engage gear.
Then neutral
Then stick the wheel tother way and do the same.
Never engage gear before you have pointed the eng the way you want to go.

It is a fallacy that you need to be moving to steer.
Water over the rudder etc.

Remember one thing.
A mobo like the Shetland will always lie broadsise to the wind when 'drifting'.

She will pivot about just forward of admidships when going ahead and appreciably more aft in reverse.

Reversing into the wind will feel more positive and require less helm.

'Steer then Gear' is a phrase repeated regularly by RYA Instructors!!

IE -- if you are stationary and want to go to starboard.
Steer to starboard and engage gear.
If you engage gear and then start whanging over to starboard, it,s too late /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If yer gets me drift /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

So when berthing or unberthing.
The bit newcomers find difficult.

Nuetral, steer-- gear, neutral steer --gear.
Little bights of throttle each time.
Will point the bow the way intended.

Approach berth/ mooring from downtide/wind, whichever is the stronger.

Hope I aint teaching Granny to suck eggs etc
K
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[Kawasaki]

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Hope I aint teaching Granny to suck eggs etc
K
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Oops!
Oo err.
Just noticed You do RYA stuff /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

The only stuff I can really add is---,

I will stay on the Dark side in future

K /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Lakesailor]

Like Kawa says, but before you start close-quarter manoeuvring check that it will pop in and out of forward and astern easily. Nothing worse than going for the brakes and they are on holiday.

My recent daliance with a 70hp on a 15ft boat soon got me adept at sliding into a jetty mooring on the lake. No currents to contend with of course, but I would definitely suggest lining up and gliding in with a tad of astern to wash you in alongside at the appropriate moment (depending on the direction of the propwash)
That mention of the pivot point is worth remembering when backing away from a jetty. Go as straight as possible until your bow is clear.

Course, Powerskipper is the one you should be in touch with.

Even Mrs Lakesailor can manage (ducks)

 

[AlJones]

You top banana!

I understand that she will do as you ask, if you put in gear then turn thats what she'll do, go forward then turn if you turn then gear she will turn! I understand that!

I aint shy in asking for advice when needed!

Thanks everyone for your input, thats what this site is here for!

Al.