Some questions about Greek paperwork

[mocruising]

When you get the bit of paper back from the coastguard port police or whom ever it has four sections.

Section 1 your length x 0.3

Section 2 Days x your length x 0.45

Section 3 Never seems to get filled in

Section 4 Never seems to get filled in

VAT

Total

What do the sections mean I understand you pay more if you are not a charter boat and you also pay more for alongside berthing.

They seem to charge two days ie day of arrival and departure does that mean if I stay two night and move off at say 0800 the following morning they are going to come after me in one of their speedboats waving a bit of paper.

 

[affinite]

You dont seriously think anyone knows the answer do you ?
Ask three different PP offices and you will surely get three different answers

 

[gavin_lacey]

Its far more likely that you stay for three days and get charged for one. Dont rock boats.

 

[Mr Cassandra]

When you get the bit of paper back from the coastguard port police or whom ever it has four sections.

Section 1 your length x 0.3

Section 2 Days x your length x 0.45

Section 3 Never seems to get filled in

Section 4 Never seems to get filled in

VAT

Total

What do the sections mean I understand you pay more if you are not a charter boat and you also pay more for alongside berthing.

They seem to charge two days ie day of arrival and departure does that mean if I stay two night and move off at say 0800 the following morning they are going to come after me in one of their speedboats waving a bit of paper.

Don`t be concerned with paper work. I've been here for 19 years I doubt I have payed more than 50 euro in mooring fees, in that time.

 

[grafozz]

+1

Don`t be concerned with paper work. I've been here for 19 years I doubt I have payed more than 50 euro in mooring fees, in that time.

+ 1 (but only six years )

 

[duncan99210]

The answer is to say thank you very much and relax. Oh, and only go visit the Port Police when they come to the boat and invite you to visit the office.... You'll be charged whatever the guy on the desk think is the right amount and that will vary according to some arcane rules involving the phase of the moon, how much ouzo he had last night and if you've upset him or not.

 

[little_roundtop]

When you get the bit of paper back from the coastguard port police or whom ever it has four sections.

Section 1 your length x 0.3

Section 2 Days x your length x 0.45

Section 3 Never seems to get filled in

Section 4 Never seems to get filled in

VAT

Total

What do the sections mean I understand you pay more if you are not a charter boat and you also pay more for alongside berthing.

They seem to charge two days ie day of arrival and departure does that mean if I stay two night and move off at say 0800 the following morning they are going to come after me in one of their speedboats waving a bit of paper.

The 0.3 x LOA is a port entry fee. You pay that once per visit.

The 0.45 x LOA is your mooring fee. You pay that per midnight to midnight period. (If you moor stern-to it's 0.36 x LOA). Some port police are sensible and make that a per night charge, some are little Hitler's and if you arrive in the evening of one day and leave in the morning of the next they will charge you for two days.

I've no idea what the other sections are for.

 

[starfire]

The answer is to say thank you very much and relax. Oh, and only go visit the Port Police when they come to the boat and invite you to visit the office.... You'll be charged whatever the guy on the desk think is the right amount and that will vary according to some arcane rules involving the phase of the moon, how much ouzo he had last night and if you've upset him or not.

Very true.

It is more about the amount of paperwork generated, more paperwork= more reason to keep people employed there.

A few years ago, we stopped in one place for a couple of nights, a polite young chap invited me to take the boat documents to the office.

I joined a queue for the office, in the hot sun, over a bakery.

A large, disgruntled, officer checked over the documents, then started filling in forms, one of which involved a long column of figures.

Then the calculator came out, another couple of minutes of totting up.

When he turned the form so I could read it, grand total €2.18.

Total time 45 mins, He would not let me leave until I had the correct 2 cents change.

But very helpful later when trying to untangle my anchor from all the others dumped on top.

Nice part of the world, wonderful people, be polite & cheerful, you will be rewarded a thousand times.

 

[jimbaerselman]

The 0.3 x LOA is a port entry fee. You pay that once per visit.

The 0.45 x LOA is your mooring fee. You pay that per midnight to midnight period. (If you moor stern-to it's 0.36 x LOA). Some port police are sensible and make that a per night charge, some are little Hitler's and if you arrive in the evening of one day and leave in the morning of the next they will charge you for two days.

I've no idea what the other sections are for.

Exactly.

I think the other two sections are for bulk water (so much per cu m)
And bulk waste (so much per cu m)

And a little stamp costing €0.88 should also be added . . . but you often have to buy that from the local tax office, which is never open outside civil service hours. So if you really want to surprise the port police, buy several of these stamps when you do find an open tax office. then just hand one over . . .

For the full story (big yawn!) see http://jimbsail.info/going-foreign/countries/greece , and then bear in mind that in very few places do the port police chase you for payment.

 

[mocruising]

We sailed from Kythnos (Loutra) where we were asked for 22 euro I did not go and see them they came over to Siros (Syros) where we also paid 22 Euro again the Port Police came over. Thats more than we paid the whole of last year a part from our Marina fees.

 

[rivonia]

Exactly.

I think the other two sections are for bulk water (so much per cu m)
And bulk waste (so much per cu m)

And a little stamp costing €0.88 should also be added . . . but you often have to buy that from the local tax office, which is never open outside civil service hours. So if you really want to surprise the port police, buy several of these stamps when you do find an open tax office. then just hand one over . . .

I three years cruising the Greek waters and checking in and out at the Port Police, we have NEVER had to pay for a stamp yet!

Peter

 

[jimbaerselman]

I three years cruising the Greek waters and checking in and out at the Port Police, we have NEVER had to pay for a stamp yet!

Peter

Dodecanese as well? If so, they may have given up. That would be sensible . . .

 

[tennisgirl1]

It is worth following JimB's advice and buying a few of those tax stamps at 88 euro cents. When the tax office is in a different town and several miles away it can cost much more the the 88 cents to get hold of one. We have also found Sundays can be a problem if the port police insist you have one and the office is shut.

 

[little_roundtop]

I three years cruising the Greek waters and checking in and out at the Port Police, we have NEVER had to pay for a stamp yet!r

Neither have we when mooring in a port but give the current situation in Greece we may well start having to!

 

[duncan99210]

The one time we were asked for the stamp was in Zea Marina when we foolishly did an unprompted change to the crew list. The port police had a nice little bit of paper with a map and Greek explanation of what we required for the tax office. After all this explanation, he then said there was no point in going as the office was on strike just then - would we please bring him 2 stamps when we were next passing through.....