SOLD THE MOBO DAY SKIPPER CSE BOOKED BUT WHAT SAIL BOAT TO BUY?

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I have just sold my 24 ft sports cruiser and now want to turn to sail on the clyde..it makes sense with a marina at the bottam of the road!
I have a day skipper cse booked shore based coastal skipper behind me but just about zero sail experience.
So the question is what is a suitable size starter sail cruising boat.
We will only overnight occasionally.
Must be easy to sail / crew especially short handed
Must be stable / safe ..dont want to put wife off - she is still only half convinced about sail.
I was hoping to purchase somtehing around 24 - 26 ft initially to save on marina fees and keep costs down overall..after all this is new to us who knows how much we will use it?
Will that be ok..?
Any advice gratefully received
 
Sadler 25.

Good sailer, beautiful lines, excellent reputation, lots around, it will look after you and your wife.

If you want to convince SWMBO take her on a flotilla holiday in the Med. It worked for me! It will also give you the opportunity to see if it really is for you before you commit yourself.
 
what marina - if you are going to kip there is a small boat club there for boats up to 25 (I think) which offers much cheaper marina fees but 26 is too big for the club I have been told
 
Thanks for the replies, the marina wil be Rhu, Flotilla holiday not an option just at the moment unfortunatley..we had thought about it...maybe in the future.. Nice to here positive comments on Saddler25, this is a boat I had been looking at with interest. I wont be rushing in to anything but hope to get somthing for next season. Brokers seem to be pushing 30ft plus for safety but this seemjs a bit big for our needs,
 
Ignore the brokers! If you were after a 35 footer, they would be trying to sell you a 40 footer.
Brokers won't give you any useful information on what a boat is really like. You may be able to rely on them if they tell you it's a white yacht....beyond that they are genetically incapable of telling the truth. I was told that a 25 footer was 27 feet!

25 feet is a good size for starting. Big enough to go anywhere, small enough to be easy to handle and small enough to just cost a small fortune, rather than a big fortune!
 
being pushed for a 30ft boat for safety reasons is nonsense surely - ours is smaller than that (26) and it is a very nice, safe boat and I do not see why a bigger boat is necessarily safer - some may be some will not be but the most important factor surely would be me not the boat in terms of whether she is safe or not - broker not pushing you because he happens to have a 30' for sale.

I do always think these "recommend me a boat" threads should filter out anybody who recommemnd their own type of boats (nothing against Vegas at all as normally there would be at least 4 or 5 recommending their own type of boat and I like vegas too - maybe a non-Vega owner recommending one means more than a vega owner recommending one and the same for all other types of boats including baby oysters too) - does everyone not love the boat they have?
 
Have a look at the Jaguar 27 - had one a few years ago - great little boat - very forgiving - go anywhere. Regretted getting gid of it but SHMO fell in love with Sadler 34 so I lost. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
BTW Jaguar Yachts are back in business. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I do always think these "recommend me a boat" threads should filter out anybody who recommemnd their own type of boats (

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I agree! FWIW I've not got a Sadler 25 and have never had one!
Sometimes these threads can look as if lots of posters are eagerly jumping up shouting "Here. Try mine. It's better than all the others".
I suppose that it simply shows that people are pleased with their boats which must be a good sign.
 
So owners should vote for their own boats then?
Maybe forums should have as little in the way of rules as possible and then you can pick the wheat from the chaff.
(and before anyone says it; I am probably chaff)
 
I'm not sure what you are saying. (Did you mean to write "should not vote for their own boat"?)

I don't think that anyone is saying that people shouldn't suggest their own boat/engine/sailmaker etc. You must admit though that sometimes these threads do look as I described them. Nothing wrong with it, and it's good that people are enthusiastic about their own boats. However, it is not always objective comment, and the reader needs to filter out all the information for himself. That's all.

I would never suggest that you are chaff, but neither will I argue with you when you say it! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
It's even less objective comment if you've never owned or sailed the boat. How can you have a legitimate view on something if you have no experience of it . I'm sure most people would say if a boat was crap. What I would hope is that there is enough experience of boats on this forum for people to ask about specifics, then be told the truth. I can't see the point of the negative comments being made about owners suggesting their own boats. If anything, they probably have more to add than any reviews where the boats are only sailed for a short time. Perhaps we should set up a Scuttlebutt Data Base of all the boats we own, with all the good and bad points we can come up with about them.
 
''Perhaps we should set up a Scuttlebutt Data Base of all the boats we own, with all the good and bad points we can come up with about them.''
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Second that .
 
The replies Ive had are all usefull whether commenting on own boat or not. The really usefull thing about forums such as these is to make use of others experiences ( first or second hand).
The main thing I was looking for was an unbiased view of what size of boat would suffice, and the impression im getting is 24/27 ft ... thats what i was hoping for!
Views on specific boats are a bonus and will help enormously... one always has to read between the lines!
Keep them coming
 
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CSE in Day Skippering. Gosh! what next O & A levels /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Not sure what your point is... but not sure how newcomers are expected tp pick up skills other than by learning from others..i know from my previous boating that we can also learn by our mistakes as we go along but it helps to learn the basics to start and saves a lot of grief along the way /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
I'm just saying that sometimes the threads do look as I described earlier. If you've never felt that then fine, but if comments about "own boats" were truely objective then people would be pointing out the faults of their own boats, which is rare.

It's perfectly possible to have a view of a boat without owning one. I've never owned a Sadler, but I recommended it because of it's reputation, various reports, discussion with owners, it's in the size bracket the poster wanted etc etc. I also think it's a little stunner! I would be surprised if many boaters would disagree with what I said, though obviously some will. At the end of the day though, it's down to the individual.

For all I know the original poster might board a Sadler, take one look and say "Not for me". I know I did that with one boat (a Centaur). An excellent boat with a very good reputation, but not for me.

I think the idea of a database is brilliant though. Excellent idea. I wish I'd thought of it! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Been here before...

First, this is not the first time someone has come with exactly the same circs as yourself. The answers tend to be a bit predictable, as they include all the versions of a right answer. Personally, with no more experience than talking to owners, I find the Sadler 25 has an enviable reputation.

That being said, you say you are a complete novice, so I will give you the appropriate advice for a novice, which may be summarized as get your experience level up and knowledge of boats up, without plunging deeply.

Can you do some crewing for someone else who has a boat about the size you feel you would like/afford? Chartering is a great idea, as it gives you cheap experience - don't look at the raw numbers, imagine the numbers if you buy an unsuitable boat and then have to sell it again, apart from someone else bearing the brunt of your mishaps!

The advice I was given, and ignored, was to buy a boat which was pretty certain to be easily sellable, without too much loss - sail it for a year, and then sell up and buy a boat which fitted my needs, identified from the first boat.

I take it that navigation, passage planning etc are ok from your mobo days??

Good luck /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif and don't get put off by some jerks here, whose sense of humour has been warped within the confines of this board!! They don't mean any harm, we've all had some twatty posts /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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