Snapdragon 23 in PBO

[Fire99]

Quite excited to follow this feature, since I also have a 'mighty' Snapdragon 23.

Though I have to say I think I got a bargain with mine regarding condition and what they paid for her. She looks a LOT of work.

Anyway, be interesting to steal (sorry I mean be inspired by) things that are done with this project.

 

[Nicholas123]

Quite excited to follow this feature, since I also have a 'mighty' Snapdragon 23.

Though I have to say I think I got a bargain with mine regarding condition and what they paid for her. She looks a LOT of work.

Anyway, be interesting to steal (sorry I mean be inspired by) things that are done with this project.

Only glad I did'nt buy it

 

[Fire99]

Only glad I did'nt buy it

Were you tempted?? Hey I love a project but man, that is a PROJECT.!!

Anyway, if the PBO folk can turn her around into something nice, that 'll be another modest-sized ol girl saved from the junk-yard!

(and i'd like to re-jig my interior so i'll be interested to see what they do with theirs)

 

[Nicholas123]

Were you tempted?? Hey I love a project but man, that is a PROJECT.!!

Anyway, if the PBO folk can turn her around into something nice, that 'll be another modest-sized ol girl saved from the junk-yard!

(and i'd like to re-jig my interior so i'll be interested to see what they do with theirs)

No not tempted in the slightest,my days of trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear are over.(I hope).
Be interesting to see if they try to wire brush that old engine back into existence or just buy another one.I suspect the latter

 

[Fire99]

No not tempted in the slightest,my days of trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear are over.(I hope).
Be interesting to see if they try to wire brush that old engine back into existence or just buy another one.I suspect the latter

That's a bit harsh.. OK it needs a ton of work but the snappy 23 is a good looking boat once in fine fettle. (Is my bias showing again? )

I recon I could breathe life back into that engine!! I think.. If they buy a new inboard, that may make the budget rather... non-budget.

 

[Pleiades]

Snappies

Great wee boats - proper little cruisers offering tremendous value for money if you can find a well cared for one. Very heavily built and well moulded - this one is a 670 with outboard. New windows and a touch of paint here and there was all she needed. Sails well - not fast as she has big bilge keels but not scary and great accommodation. Light on the helm, sails perfectly under an autopilot and heaves too nicely.

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[onesea]

I do not know about snapdragons particularly but I would not say it was a bargain. A friend got a 20 footer with good outboard engine and sailed it away for VERY little more...

I also know of a couple of 24' boats that are going for a steal if you have a drying mooring... Ready to sail away at that...

Its a buyers market and when you have a small boat the storing and mooring cost soon bring value down.

 

[prv]

Be interesting to see if they try to wire brush that old engine back into existence or just buy another one.I suspect the latter

Surely the point of an article series like this is to do all the restoration projects. Presumably beyond the point where a pragmatic real-life owner would buy new, because that wouldn't make a very interesting article.

Pete

 

[Pleiades]

Snappy restoration

Good project in the magazine. I hope the restoration goes well - I would like to do a project like that but would have walked away from that one due to the drop keel. A large moving part like that is always a potential headache and they will need to be able to hoist the boat up to replace the keel - assuming that they get someone to fabricate a new one so that takes it beyond most hobbyist boat restorers I imagine. Bilge keeler or a fin would have been far simpler. I would not even try to replace the inboard - the cost would never be recoverable and a big Seagull on the transom would be fine or I suppose a lesser engine if pushed.

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[Seajet]

Good project in the magazine. I hope the restoration goes well - I would like to do a project like that but would have walked away from that one due to the drop keel. A large moving part like that is always a potential headache and they will need to be able to hoist the boat up to replace the keel - assuming that they get someone to fabricate a new one so that takes it beyond most hobbyist boat restorers I imagine. Bilge keeler or a fin would have been far simpler. I would not even try to replace the inboard - the cost would never be recoverable and a big Seagull on the transom would be fine or I suppose a lesser engine if pushed.

Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

Pleiades,

I understand what you're saying about lift keels requiring maintenance, but my Anderson 22 - and others - is hoisted onto wooden trestles every winter, no higher than a fin keeler.

I supply plans for the trestles which are easy to make, and we have new keels available 'on the shelf', there's no great demand but it's not often a boat class can say that.

I have seen plenty of twin keelers with problems, not surprising when one considers the horrible splaying loads settling in mud then being ( hopefully ) raised again every 12 hours...

 

[Pleiades]

Snappy restoration

 

[Pleiades]

Snappy restoration

Hi Seajet. Nice boat the Anderson 22 - great sailing performance. Went with my brother to buy one -but the lifting keel mechanism was in a state and it had some serious structural damage so bought the Snappy instead which had despite many years service not suffered so much as scratch on the underside of the bilge keels. The designer incidentally made the keels vertical with very heavy layup - presumably because it was easier to mold that way and they did not know much about how GRP would fare over time. I agreee that some bilge keels - particularly the splayed design which came later can suffer from dropping on the sea bed each tide.
Cheers
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[Seajet]

Hi Robin,

interesting to hear of the A22 you looked at; as I'm sure you'll have twigged, I run the owners association - I'd be intrigued to know more as snags with the keel system are very rare, new winches are off the shelf at around £100...

Will PM you,

Regards

Andy