lyc
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Think I prefer tcm's Leopard 23, to the colour of Zamboanga.
Silver Leopard 27
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benjenbav
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I think it's nice. Anyway it says it is on the stern.
Renegade_Master
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dont like the rear view hope the fronts better
powerskipper
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would you use Silvo to clean it then!
SteveE
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That is one ugly looking boat!!!!!
ShipsWoofy
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The vessel next door looks quite spiffying /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
petem
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What's known in the trade as a minger. Nice of the neighbours to have un-socked fenders scuffing the sides.
BrendanS
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In my experience socked fenders are worse - they trap the dirt and cause more damaged than bare plastic fenders which get rinsed off by rain etc
Planty
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Glad it's not just me, I'm sure they are fine boats, and TCM's looks well built but I had started to wonder if it was just me who thought the aesthetics were a bit off. Mind you, beauty........... as they say. P
tcm
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More about zamboanga
this is one of two silver boats in the lep yard over xmas 2002 when i went back for warranty work, with boatone and much-loved onetime poster hereabouts Coliholic as crew. We went up the canals if you remember the 400 photos from B1. It was their first visit, and all v keen to have a good poke around, so b1 asked the head honcho if it would be ok to wander about. "It is your home!" said the poetic MD, so we went on every boat. B1 *tried* to find something useful for his boat, all the time reminding himself that it was "his home" but in the typical style of anyone's home he couldn't find very much that would fit his boat.
Then un-named zamboanga is silver outside, silver inside the cockpit, everywhere. It's a darker silver than appears on the pix - from a distance it looks battleship grey, and at night a very dark and menacing metallic.
Down below, it's 4 cabins i seem to recall, with a master full-width cabin. And all the wood ...is black. Argh! Yes black wood, like a 70's stereogram, everywhere, yards and yards of it. Remebr, these are handbuilt so there's MORE wood than in a sunseeker or fairline (which might have some things as mouldings frinstance) not less. B1 and i wondered if the joinery department might be considering topping themselves in this sea of miserable wood, having already done one in black they must be in a serious way. Hilariously, Coliholic marched about saying "oh ******, they've ruined it, oh gawd, it's horrible horrible!!" and so on whilst i sortof sed shhh shut up, even though everyone was off at lunch and only spoke italian...but he was right.
So, the inside of the silver boats is, urgh black. There's lots of little lights which don't have much effect really, making it feel like an empty disco, or a weird asian brothel, especially with all the wardrobes door round the back of the master bedroom. Urgh, shiver.
The problem is that whatever you want, they'll make it. Can't imagine what it's worth, and if it's in cheapy cheapy Nice, it's probly for sale. I would have though it might well be worth more with coliholic as skipper marching about "yes ,yes i totally agree ok, it bl*** awful, they've ruined it, I KNOW....but it's cheap, see?..."
Nonetheless - quite something from the quayside - as long as someone else bought it...
this is one of two silver boats in the lep yard over xmas 2002 when i went back for warranty work, with boatone and much-loved onetime poster hereabouts Coliholic as crew. We went up the canals if you remember the 400 photos from B1. It was their first visit, and all v keen to have a good poke around, so b1 asked the head honcho if it would be ok to wander about. "It is your home!" said the poetic MD, so we went on every boat. B1 *tried* to find something useful for his boat, all the time reminding himself that it was "his home" but in the typical style of anyone's home he couldn't find very much that would fit his boat.
Then un-named zamboanga is silver outside, silver inside the cockpit, everywhere. It's a darker silver than appears on the pix - from a distance it looks battleship grey, and at night a very dark and menacing metallic.
Down below, it's 4 cabins i seem to recall, with a master full-width cabin. And all the wood ...is black. Argh! Yes black wood, like a 70's stereogram, everywhere, yards and yards of it. Remebr, these are handbuilt so there's MORE wood than in a sunseeker or fairline (which might have some things as mouldings frinstance) not less. B1 and i wondered if the joinery department might be considering topping themselves in this sea of miserable wood, having already done one in black they must be in a serious way. Hilariously, Coliholic marched about saying "oh ******, they've ruined it, oh gawd, it's horrible horrible!!" and so on whilst i sortof sed shhh shut up, even though everyone was off at lunch and only spoke italian...but he was right.
So, the inside of the silver boats is, urgh black. There's lots of little lights which don't have much effect really, making it feel like an empty disco, or a weird asian brothel, especially with all the wardrobes door round the back of the master bedroom. Urgh, shiver.
The problem is that whatever you want, they'll make it. Can't imagine what it's worth, and if it's in cheapy cheapy Nice, it's probly for sale. I would have though it might well be worth more with coliholic as skipper marching about "yes ,yes i totally agree ok, it bl*** awful, they've ruined it, I KNOW....but it's cheap, see?..."
Nonetheless - quite something from the quayside - as long as someone else bought it...
itsonlymoney
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Think this is the same lep the wife and I saw last July in Nice. I hated it she loved it with a passion, but then she is a bit wierd.
Ian
Ian
boatone
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Re: More about zamboanga
Ahh yes... I remeber it well....we wandered round the cockpit area in a state of unbuilt amd made comments about Coliholic and DIY skills etc etc
hated it....in fact i binned the pics cos they were awfull cos everywhere black inside.
Ahh yes... I remeber it well....we wandered round the cockpit area in a state of unbuilt amd made comments about Coliholic and DIY skills etc etc
hated it....in fact i binned the pics cos they were awfull cos everywhere black inside.
Planty
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Re: More about zamboanga
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Can't say I'd recognise that or indeed a European one, sure that is my loss, happy loss though /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Did see around a Pearl 44 I think, named "Black Pearl" in Gunwharf once, that was the same totally Black Interior throughout, lets just say "Not to my taste!!"
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or a weird asian brothel
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Can't say I'd recognise that or indeed a European one, sure that is my loss, happy loss though /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Did see around a Pearl 44 I think, named "Black Pearl" in Gunwharf once, that was the same totally Black Interior throughout, lets just say "Not to my taste!!"
ShipsWoofy
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Re: More about zamboanga
When I first saw the photograph I thought I would buck the trend and say, well I like it, but then I would have another look, and another.
I just couldn't find the words or that certain something to like.
It looks like a yank landing craft or something?
When I first saw the photograph I thought I would buck the trend and say, well I like it, but then I would have another look, and another.
I just couldn't find the words or that certain something to like.
It looks like a yank landing craft or something?
tcm
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Re: More about zamboanga
tis most certainly different. Must be near invisible at night at sea cos seems only lightly noticeable from a distance even in high sun.
The main thing to like is the dedication and skill that has gone into satisfying the brief - however misguided that may brief may have been. I mean, thiv got grey covers, dismantled and painted the passarelle, and it *used* to have metallic grey fenders too. And smarter stern lines come to think of it...
tis most certainly different. Must be near invisible at night at sea cos seems only lightly noticeable from a distance even in high sun.
The main thing to like is the dedication and skill that has gone into satisfying the brief - however misguided that may brief may have been. I mean, thiv got grey covers, dismantled and painted the passarelle, and it *used* to have metallic grey fenders too. And smarter stern lines come to think of it...
jfm
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Yup it is a bit silvery. It is berthed permanently where your pic is taken, namely in Nice harbour, NW corner. Imho the paint they used is a bit grey when you see it in the flesh especially when the sun isn't directly on it. It's not sparkly enough, so looks battleship grey. That pic actually flatters it imho.
Unusually I don't have a pic of this boat smashed up on rox but here's a pic of her rooster tail /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Unusually I don't have a pic of this boat smashed up on rox but here's a pic of her rooster tail /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
tcm
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Re: Silver Leopard 27 - crap drive
now, this illustrates why i don't like the lep27, or the 108 or the v65 and quite lot of the other hardtops, despite rollback covers. It's a bit rubbish to drive, innit, cos no chance of wind in air, ever. And a bit too seriously dependent on windscreen wipers in bad/murky conditions. Plus (i spect) a right racket with hardtop bits above head. Plus (in v65 at least) yer can't stand up and drive.
V58 (and early pred 63) gets this right with rollback top from windscreen.
There! No charge for having saved several people at least £800k for v65 or £10m+ for 108...
now, this illustrates why i don't like the lep27, or the 108 or the v65 and quite lot of the other hardtops, despite rollback covers. It's a bit rubbish to drive, innit, cos no chance of wind in air, ever. And a bit too seriously dependent on windscreen wipers in bad/murky conditions. Plus (i spect) a right racket with hardtop bits above head. Plus (in v65 at least) yer can't stand up and drive.
V58 (and early pred 63) gets this right with rollback top from windscreen.
There! No charge for having saved several people at least £800k for v65 or £10m+ for 108...
jfm
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Re: Silver Leopard 27 - crap drive
So, you saying flybridges are best?
So, you saying flybridges are best?
lyc
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tcm
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Re: Silver Leopard 27 v 108
108 still suffers from the "crap to drive syndrome" cos it's indoors and the full-width master cabn is hard up against the engineroom, i believe. altho it does have central helm whereas l27 is off to stbd side - but both are deeply "indoors" which can be dark (or grim, if all silver as shown in pic)
L27 is sharper, sharkier, with super-raked lines which yor near-stern pic didn't show (but jfm's did) - the arse of an l27 is fab, dominating from low quayside, not from high up Nice quayside and the boxiness of that rear shows instead of the side window. Rear camper top isn't reopresentative med style - it wouldn't be up from June at all, really, and if guests on board it wd be down during the day.
generally, Nice is cheap cos it is v swelly. Mostly, boats there are for sale. I mean even more for sale than normal qv Deleted User not having his boat for sale but er someone calling him and selling it...
108 still suffers from the "crap to drive syndrome" cos it's indoors and the full-width master cabn is hard up against the engineroom, i believe. altho it does have central helm whereas l27 is off to stbd side - but both are deeply "indoors" which can be dark (or grim, if all silver as shown in pic)
L27 is sharper, sharkier, with super-raked lines which yor near-stern pic didn't show (but jfm's did) - the arse of an l27 is fab, dominating from low quayside, not from high up Nice quayside and the boxiness of that rear shows instead of the side window. Rear camper top isn't reopresentative med style - it wouldn't be up from June at all, really, and if guests on board it wd be down during the day.
generally, Nice is cheap cos it is v swelly. Mostly, boats there are for sale. I mean even more for sale than normal qv Deleted User not having his boat for sale but er someone calling him and selling it...