Silly students, sea swimming sensible?
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l'escargot
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Isn't it just another case of people being rescued whether they want to be or not? The alarm was raised by a concerned member of the public.
24 of the 25 made their own way to shore, it looks like the 25th was a token "rescue". 3 were "treated" for hypothermia at the scene - probably wrapped in the obligatory silver blanket for 10 minutes.
I like the quote: "....But the outcome could have been very different, if the wind had been offshore instead of inshore...." - But it wasn't!
24 of the 25 made their own way to shore, it looks like the 25th was a token "rescue". 3 were "treated" for hypothermia at the scene - probably wrapped in the obligatory silver blanket for 10 minutes.
I like the quote: "....But the outcome could have been very different, if the wind had been offshore instead of inshore...." - But it wasn't!
Kilter
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Take your point but, "Three swimmers were treated for hypothermia by paramedics" and they (the swimmers) were out in strong winds and heavy swell, not too clever really.
Channel Ribs
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Seems fair enough.
... people being rescued whether they want to be or not...
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Seems fair enough.
l'escargot
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Seems fair enough.
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So the next time you are out in your boat and the conditions are a bit challenging, if a concerned member of the public rings the coastguard and says you look as if you are in trouble, you won't mind being rescued even if you don't want to be?
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Seems fair enough.
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So the next time you are out in your boat and the conditions are a bit challenging, if a concerned member of the public rings the coastguard and says you look as if you are in trouble, you won't mind being rescued even if you don't want to be?
fireball
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have to be careful with that one - we've picked some "swimmers" out of the water in the entrance to Chi Harbour - tide on the flood - they would probably have been ok (they were waving asking for help though) - one of them was decidedly chilly - and "needed" to be recovered, his reactions were certainly slower than his friends and was much quieter - he probably didn't realise it though.
Sometimes a rescue boat crew can have a better over view than the potential rescuee - and picking them up "now" will save having to relaunch and find casualties later on in the day. It is a difficult one to assess - but if I was out for a swim and CG/Lifeboat came along and insisted on "rescuing" me when I was in no danger I would be a little peeved.
Sometimes a rescue boat crew can have a better over view than the potential rescuee - and picking them up "now" will save having to relaunch and find casualties later on in the day. It is a difficult one to assess - but if I was out for a swim and CG/Lifeboat came along and insisted on "rescuing" me when I was in no danger I would be a little peeved.
mikefleetwood
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I understand is was a regular thing - the students went swimming most Sunday afternoons.
I also understand (from Radio Cornwall news reports) that they were waving for help - caught out by bigger than expected waves and strong currents (rips?).
I hope this puts the report into better context.
I'm trying to remember the comment from the Coastguard chap. I think he did say that this is normally a very safe beach, though.
I also understand (from Radio Cornwall news reports) that they were waving for help - caught out by bigger than expected waves and strong currents (rips?).
I hope this puts the report into better context.
I'm trying to remember the comment from the Coastguard chap. I think he did say that this is normally a very safe beach, though.
DeeGee
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Looks like one of those 'peer pressure' things. You make arrangements for a bit of fun... on the day it turns out to be decidedly nasty, so you look around for others who are backing down - nobody does, so off you all go.
Done it loads of times dinghy racing, and busted things, but nobody drowned /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Done it loads of times dinghy racing, and busted things, but nobody drowned /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
fireball
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You'd think if it was a student regular thing then they'd get a small inflatable to follow them around ... if only to carry the drinks!
Channel Ribs
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If a member of the public saw me and assumed I was in distress then I would be glad they called 999, I would also be glad to hear from the CG or Port Control before any action was taken that may not be needed.
If a lifeboat or helicopter turned up out of blue and I was safe, fit and happy then I would politely explain there had been a false asumption made.
Only the other day I was drifting while looking for a good spot to drop a couple of crab pots, a local fishing boat chugged by and asked if I was ok - I appreciated the question and gave them the thumbs up and a big smile.
If I was doing something blatantly stupid, as is not unknown, and was forcibly 'rescued' because the danger was too great to waste time with lengthy conversation then I would accept the wisdom of the rescuers. I much prefer being embarressed to dead.
...you won't mind being rescued even if you don't want to be?
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If a member of the public saw me and assumed I was in distress then I would be glad they called 999, I would also be glad to hear from the CG or Port Control before any action was taken that may not be needed.
If a lifeboat or helicopter turned up out of blue and I was safe, fit and happy then I would politely explain there had been a false asumption made.
Only the other day I was drifting while looking for a good spot to drop a couple of crab pots, a local fishing boat chugged by and asked if I was ok - I appreciated the question and gave them the thumbs up and a big smile.
If I was doing something blatantly stupid, as is not unknown, and was forcibly 'rescued' because the danger was too great to waste time with lengthy conversation then I would accept the wisdom of the rescuers. I much prefer being embarressed to dead.
l'escargot
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...If a lifeboat or helicopter turned up out of blue and I was safe, fit and happy then I would politely explain there had been a false asumption made....
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There's no guarantee they would listen - do you remember this story? - they practically stalk you to get a rescue on the say so of an uniformed CMP these days.
...If a lifeboat or helicopter turned up out of blue and I was safe, fit and happy then I would politely explain there had been a false asumption made....
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There's no guarantee they would listen - do you remember this story? - they practically stalk you to get a rescue on the say so of an uniformed CMP these days.
NPMR
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For me, the point was made in my post last night before I knew of this escapade - which was that the weather forecast was so very wrong.
Mind you, with an onshore wind and a clear beach, such as Gyllingvase is, you'd think they'd have noticed the size of waves rolling in, wouldn't you, BEFORE they went in!!
Mind you, with an onshore wind and a clear beach, such as Gyllingvase is, you'd think they'd have noticed the size of waves rolling in, wouldn't you, BEFORE they went in!!
Swagman
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Know what the coasties felt like. We were sailing into San Antonio on Ibiza and saw five topless girls stuck out on a pedalo far too far off the coast so like it or not - we went to save them by towing them in. Could only do a couple of knots or the pedalo might have sunk - so it did take some time.
Utterly selfless but true.
JOHN
Utterly selfless but true.
JOHN
Channel Ribs
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Aaaah, you should be sainted /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Utterly selfless
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Aaaah, you should be sainted /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Searush
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"He added it was "ill-advised" to go into the sea without being properly prepared and wearing appropriate clothing. "
Forgive me for my stupidity, but for swimming in the seas around the UK (including the N Sea) in late spring, summer & early autumn my appropriate clothing is a cozzy. Are the HMCG recommending we should only enter the water if fully clothed or with a wetsuit, lifejacket, armbands & a safety line ashore with two trained observers & a medico?
I regularly swim off my boat at moorings and swim off beaches at every opportunity [includes Odessa, Lake Balaton, Adriatic, Lake Garda, Lake Bala, Ullswater, N. Sea, Eng. Channel, Bristol Channel, I. Sea (both sides!), R. Mersey & Dee, Altantic (both sides) W.Isles and Palau (Pacific)] Some times & places are warmer than others but they are all enjoyable. All you need is a dry towel and somewhere out of the wind to change. And be aware of your limitations.
Forgive me for my stupidity, but for swimming in the seas around the UK (including the N Sea) in late spring, summer & early autumn my appropriate clothing is a cozzy. Are the HMCG recommending we should only enter the water if fully clothed or with a wetsuit, lifejacket, armbands & a safety line ashore with two trained observers & a medico?
I regularly swim off my boat at moorings and swim off beaches at every opportunity [includes Odessa, Lake Balaton, Adriatic, Lake Garda, Lake Bala, Ullswater, N. Sea, Eng. Channel, Bristol Channel, I. Sea (both sides!), R. Mersey & Dee, Altantic (both sides) W.Isles and Palau (Pacific)] Some times & places are warmer than others but they are all enjoyable. All you need is a dry towel and somewhere out of the wind to change. And be aware of your limitations.