Shingles Bank - moved about a bit?

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Sailing out of the Solent westbound today (2nd) via Hurst/North Channel around 11:30 and noted that a significant amount of the Shingles Bank was showing well above the water with tide at the time around 2m above datum. The recent stormy weather seems to have moved a lot of gravel about - beware if you are in the habit of taking shortcuts.

BTW: excellent sailing day :D
 
AHoy2 said:
Sailing out of the Solent westbound today (2nd) via Hurst/North Channel around 11:30 and noted that a significant amount of the Shingles Bank was showing well above the water with tide at the time around 2m above datum. The recent stormy weather seems to have moved a lot of gravel about - beware if you are in the habit of taking shortcuts.

BTW: excellent sailing day :D
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AHoy2,

thanks, that is excellent info' to have !
 
AHoy2 said:
Sailing out of the Solent westbound today (2nd) via Hurst/North Channel around 11:30 and noted that a significant amount of the Shingles Bank was showing well above the water with tide at the time around 2m above datum. The recent stormy weather seems to have moved a lot of gravel about - beware if you are in the habit of taking shortcuts.

BTW: excellent sailing day :D
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Thanks for the info, very useful especially as there is a group of us from the forum planing to go there on Saturday.
 
I'm pretty sure it was like that for most/all of last year. Much higher than charted.

I observed that from both sea level and also from the cliffs overlooking the Needles.

I think there were one or two comments on here to that effect, IIRC.
 
Twister_Ken said:
Seems to happen quite frequently autumn/winter/spring then reverts to normal during the summer. Or maybe it's the summer that's abnormal.

Or maybe it's just waiting for Miss Amy Roadstone to come along with one of her dredgers?
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Does Amey Roadstone still exist??
 
Talulah said:
I'm curious if the latest Solent charts have been amended. I threw out the old ones so can't compare.
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I doubt it, the bank constantly moves through the season, the charts would need updating almost weekly depending on weather conditions. I wouldn't rely on any charted depths over the shingles.

Have a look towards the bottom of this page, there is a picture as well: http://www.solentirc.org.uk/

Last year it was claimed as a new island by the Royal Southern YC: http://hamble.boatshed.com/shingles-bank-blog-6343.html

but it had disappeared again by the summer as it usually does.
 
Talulah said:
I'm curious if the latest Solent charts have been amended. I threw out the old ones so can't compare.
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Interesting question. I suspect not, because there is probably little point in the Hydrographic Office paying to survey an area that all try to avoid (most of the time). All the big stuff keeps well clear and I presume the commercial world is UKHO's primary source of revenue, so they probably focus their limited budget at researching areas that matter to them.

I do have Solent chartpacks for 2011 on board and 2004 at home. It would be interesting to compare them, but they are currently separated by 100 miles of tarmac/railway track and so won't be reunited any time soon. (Admiralty chartpacks are too big to carry on a train conveniently.) ;)

Edit: I see "the snail" beat me to it.
 
Talulah said:
I'm curious if the latest Solent charts have been amended. I threw out the old ones so can't compare.
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Its been up and down that ridge for a whilst. I believe they have stopped gravel dredging, a whilst ago maybe this helps.

I noticed quite allot of gravel has gone from the beach at Milford.

Also of note when I was out earlier this week for those using the North Channel

There is a good assortment of pot buoys approx 100m around North Head buoy.

About 05. - 1Nm to the west (very approx position (Mk I eyeball)) there is yellow buoy you really would not want to hit. About 50cm diam with wooden bits underneath.
 
l'escargot said:
Disappeared at high tide then - it had been visible at all states of the tide earlier in the season.
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No, probably not. I was up at the Needles Battery from Low Water for about 3 hours. When I left at mid-tide it was still sticking well out of the water.

May well still have been dry at HW. Trouble is that, from up there, it was very difficult to judge the height.
 
Talulah said:
I'm curious if the latest Solent charts have been amended.
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I like to keep my charts up to date. Don't remember doing any corrections of depth around the Shingles. A few buoy changes to the south-west last year is all I can think of off-hand.

Pete
 
prv said:
I like to keep my charts up to date. Don't remember doing any corrections of depth around the Shingles. A few buoy changes to the south-west last year is all I can think of off-hand.

Pete
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I suspect that the Shingles move to often for the charted depths to be corrected. I hope that they move the buoys as and when required to indicate the channel so that my eyeball system has something to use as a reference point and to remind me to look at the depth sounder!
 
confession time.many years ago i had just brought my first little new sealine,and was taking it to cobbs quay carefully following my road map and keeping the engine revs down when as i turned right i saw this monster tidal wave coming at me,sod the engines flatout i went to get out its way its way after a short while i realised it was not moving,so i went to investigate only to find a cerment mixer and a land for sale sign on it.itwas during a property boom
 
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