Seastream 43, which one is best buy?

[alant]

Just musing through boat ads, when I spotted these. One a 1994, t'other 1982 ketch, but both priced at £90k. Which would you consider the best buy?

http://www.seastream.co.uk/for-sale/

 

[npf1]

IMHO, the first one. Nice boat

 

[alant]

IMHO, the first one. Nice boat

Why?

 

[neilf39]

Isn't one a 43 and the other a 34 with the 34 also being older?

 

[alant]

Isn't one a 43 and the other a 34 with the 34 also being older?

No, one is 43 owned by Peter Snow, whilst below the 34, is a ketch 43 up in Scotland. Almost 10 yrs age difference & not the same builders. Both apparently in good condition @ same prices.

 

[Tranona]

No, one is 43 owned by Peter Snow, whilst below the 34, is a ketch 43 up in Scotland. Almost 10 yrs age difference & not the same builders. Both apparently in good condition @ same prices.

Age difference has less to do with it when boats get to that age. The two boats might share the same hull but have very different backgrounds and while they might both appeal to the same sort of buyers in a general sense they offer very different experiences in detail. However, I would have expected the Snow boat - a one owner private (but well used) boat to fetch more than a very well used charter boat, although the latter has been very well maintained and up to date.

Only "real" buyers rather than armchair ones will determine which suits them better and at what price.

 

[npf1]

Why?

The ketch one appears to have had lots of additional equipment and modifications, some of which is a plus in my book. But, the wiring appears to be a snakes tea party, which makes me wonder about the whole maintenance regime.

IMHO, better to start with a boat that's been less messed about. The first one appears to be in better condition and 'feels' nicer, plus has some good stuff fitted like recent electronics, Andersen winches etc. Not having a generator is a plus to me. Not having an autoprop a minus. I'd rather buy the first one and then add the bits I felt it needed.

 

[siwhi]

Just for comparison, there's a 465 at Kip for sale. Might be the only one made? I think the internal arrangement is more or less the same, even if sadly the asking price is certainly not.

http://www.michaelschmidt.co.uk/yacht-details/?Make=Seastream&Model=465&BoatID=5028361

 

[Topcat47]

I've seen Cerulean around the Solent and channel ports occasionally over the years. She's always looked good and been handled well, when I've seen her. Wish I had the money, I would be tempted to bid. The one in Scotland looks OK. I"d stick with the one nearest me (Leamington in my case). Suck it and see?

 

[john]

I arranged to view the Snow boat a few weeks ago. Needs almost everything replacing.....

 

[john]

but must have been a great boat when new. When I was aboard, the broker suggested Mr Snow had set an unrealistic price given the work needed.

 

[duncan99210]

but must have been a great boat when new. When I was aboard, the broker suggested Mr Snow had set an unrealistic price given the work needed.

And if the 1994 Snow boat is unrealistically priced, what does that say about the 1982 boat?

 

[alant]

And if the 1994 Snow boat is unrealistically priced, what does that say about the 1982 boat?

Here's a 1987 at even higher price £125k.

http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1987/Seastream-43-MkII-Ketch-2884824/United-Kingdom#.VvGomtinxpW

 

[alant]

but must have been a great boat when new. When I was aboard, the broker suggested Mr Snow had set an unrealistic price given the work needed.

What would be a realistic price?

 

[doug748]

I would have said the newer boat but john has sounded a warning. I wonder what the story is with the "whole new rig in the last few years", sails as well?
Ancasta has little to say on the issue. Is the Perkins with 2500 hours something to fret about or the "factory reconditioned" Merc with nearly 6 thousand? I might want a specialist report on either of them.

The flexi teak looks grim it will be an odd mix if the whole boat has not been done the same way....on the other hand you will not be wanting a blue hull, as lovely as they are. So, I would say, you really have to go and have a look.

 

[E39mad]

I arranged to view the Snow boat a few weeks ago. Needs almost everything replacing.....

...including the swingometre?