screeching manual toilet. HEADMISTRESS HELP?

[Guest]

First posting on the forum new boat owners - thanks have learnt a great deal from reading previous posts and replies!! NOW NEED MINOR HELP Have jabsco manual pump loo. screeches to let everyone moored up within 50 yds know someone on our boat has been to the loo! LOOKING FOR RESPONSE PARTICULARLY FROM THE HEADMISTREESS
Screeching starts as you pump to empty or add water.

any sugestions on how to remedy.

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[hlb]

Thow a bit of cooking oil down the loe. Maybe need a bit round the handle rod. Else you can buy loo frewshner come lub, come disinfectant stuff. Cooking oil works fine.

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Haydn

 

[paulineb]

I know this is going to bring lots of derisory comments ...... but wouldn't something like KY be better? It's water soluble.

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[Guest]

Tried WD40 down hand pump fiture - bank holiday special - will be chucking cooking oil down lo - hope for sake of neihbours it works!! Thank you for speedy responses so far.

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[Guest]

Tried WD40 down hand pump fixture - bank holiday special event to look forward to- will be chucking cooking oil down lo - hope for sake of neighbours it works!! Thank you for speedy responses so far.

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[Talbot]

WD40 would be worse than useless. The problem is that the sealing ring on the pump has dried out, and will need to be re-lubricated. I dont know what your pump uses, but believe that a bit of silicon grease is the answer, but will require a dissassembly. you may have some temporary relief from the noise by the use of a bit of cooking oil flushed through the system.

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[hlb]

Most folk keep some cooking oil in the bathroom ready. A bit down the loe now and then oils the valves and gets rid of the squeaks

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Haydn

 

[l'escargot]

No, because it will dissolve in the water and wash away, then no lubrication.

Waterproof lubricant is needed. I put a big dollop of vaseline down every now and again because it sticks to anything - some will tell you that it will rot the seals but I have not found it to be so.

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[MedDreamer]

I think Peggy recommends teflon grease. Undo the four screws on the pump housing and remove the piston, put the grease around the piston ring and replace.

I took this advice and it worked a treat. we now have a very slick and quiet toilet pump.

If I remeber right Peggy said this should last all season.

Martyn

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[jfm]

Re: might have guessed!

Pauline you are incorrigible. Suggesting KY for "The Alternator"

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[Dave1258]

Re: might have guessed!

Olive Oil.....reccommended as a seal loob

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[HeadMistress]

That screeching is sound of rubber seals o-rings etc being worn away against the inside of the pump cylinder ...the toilet desperately needs lubrication.

Many people just wait till the toilet starts to squeak and become hard to pump, then pour some mineral oil or vegetable oil down it. That’s ok in an emergency, till you can get home and do it right, but it’s not the way to maintain the toilet. Not only is this very hard on the toilet, but it’s a never-ending job because anything poured down the toilet washes out in just a few flushes.

Why is it hard on the toilet? Because a toilet doesn’t squeak or become hard to pump unless it needs lubrication...Waiting till it squeaks to lubricate it is like waiting till an engine starts to smoke to add oil.

Ever wondered why a new toilet doesn’t need any lubrication for at least a year? It’s because every toilet leaves the factory slathered with thick Teflon grease that takes a full season or more to be flushed out. Replacing it just once a year is all it takes to keep a toilet pumping smoothly. And it’s only a 15 minute job—just open up the top of the pump and put a healthy squirt of it into it…pump the toilet a few times to get it all through the pump, and you’re “good to go” for the entire season. And, by keeping the pump lubricated this way, you extend the life of the seals and valves, reducing the need for rebuilds.

To lubricate a Jabsco toilet: depending on the age of the toilet, you'll either need to remove 6 screws that hold the top on the cylinder or loosen the hex nut around the piston. Lift up the top...put a HEALTHY squirt of the grease inside...pump a few times to spread it all over the inside of the cylinder (not just around the o-rings....the purpose of lubrication isn't to soften them up, it's to provide protection between the rubber parts and the pump cylinder wall as they move up and down against it)....replace the top. You're done for the year.

The best time to lubricate a toilet is in the fall, as part of winterizing. The Teflon grease protects the rubber parts in the toilet from drying out, which also extends their life.


K-Y wouldn't be a bad choice, but it's much more water soluble than synthetic teflon grease and therefor would wash out much more quickly and would also dry out in just a few days while the boat sits...so it wouldn't last long. However, it's the best thing I've found for getting hoses onto fittings when replacing hoses.

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[Colin_S]

I\'m soooooo sorry

I really do apologise but, as soon as I finished reading your reply and your 'signature', the first thought to spring to mind was "Peggy Hall, talking sh*t since 1987".

I am really, really sorry and apologise profusley, but I just had to share this thought.

Colin - off to search for a flack jacket

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[HeadMistress]

Re: I\'m soooooo sorry

LOL! It's ok, Colin...I'm used to it. After nearly 20 years, I'd better be!

Btw...I love your little icon! Where did you find it and how can I get one?

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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987

 

[Colin_S]

Re: I\'m soooooo sorry

Phew - you got a sense of humour! Was expecting detention at the very least. BTW, sorry for spelling your name wrong. My bad.

I 'lift' my smilies from this site - <A target="_blank" HREF=http://talk.thebabycorner.com/misc.php?do=showsmilies>http://talk.thebabycorner.com/misc.php?do=showsmilies</A>

Find the smiley you want to use, right click on it and click on 'properties', highlight and copy the 'address' and then using the image markups ([image]address[/image]), paste the address in.

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[TrueBlue]

Re: I\'m soooooo sorry

(ps. Drat - Colin got there first....)HeadMistress;
Easy, Peasy - just pinch it(the avatar) from Colin, in his present frame of mind I'm sure he won't complain.

Here's what you do:-

Move your cursor over the picture;
Right Mouse click,
Select "save picture as",
Take the picture default, and hey presto, pic: is save in "My pictures" - wherever that is on your machine.
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Not very nice to do, but it's done all the time!
We All owe you a favour for your multitudinous and highly detailed posts, this is but a very small return.

regards,


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[Dave_Snelson]

Hi Peggy - got my Jabsco sorted, thanks.

Hi Peggy - Thanks for your advice, I am back in action now.

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[Colin_S]

Re: I\'m soooooo sorry

Yep - what TrueBlue says work's too

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[HeadMistress]

Re: I\'m soooooo sorry

Thank you!



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[Guest]

Thank you for all replies - esp headmistress - will be printing off and laminating advice for future well kept loo.

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