Sailors Art - second go - what do you think?

[dylanwinter]

On friday morning I posted a thread about yacht art

it sank like a stone

too many links apparently for old sailors fingers to click on

so here is just one

I downloaded some of the images from the web and put them in a gallery here -

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/scuttlebutt/modern-yacht-art-dylan-winter-blog-jan-21/

I would love some more urls of sailing and seascape art from fellow sailors

accompanied by opinions - good or otherwise

I have a wtaercolour on my wall at home - it is of yachts pulled up on a foreshore. In many ways it is a lovely composition - but the bloke who painted it does not understand boats

he has decided to miss out on the beachine legs on the long keeler and the rigging is wrong

drives me crazy every time I look at it

Incidentally, I was given one of those electronic photoframes for christmas - the snaps of family life soon wore a bit thin but having sailing art on the carousel is lovely.

Dylan

PS - anyone can now comment on films on the website and I am slowly moving them all back to youtube -

 

[Bajansailor]

Lots of lovely paintings in the link that you posted!

Here is another sea paintings website for your collection - http://www.seapaintings.co.uk/

 

[Bodach na mara]

Some very intersting art there Dylan. Thanks for sharing it.

I know what you mean by your comments on the picture at home. I went to an art class and had a word with the tutor about his version of the rigging on the boats in the picture we were attempting. I pointed out that you would not actually see most of the rigging at all and also drew him a typical layout diagram of single spreader masthead rigging, for which he thanked me. Later in the course we were doing a picture in which he portrayed the tile lines on the side hip of a roof converging to a point at the ridge. I did not have the heart to point out why that was wrong but did my own sketch with parallel lines. I may not be mush of an artist, but I do know hat you should start from what you can actually see.

 

[dylanwinter]

too frightening

Lots of lovely paintings in the link that you posted!

Here is another sea paintings website for your collection - http://www.seapaintings.co.uk/

I love the way she renders the waves

http://www.seapaintings.co.uk/pictures/yes web mage.jpg

but her pictures put the fear of god into me

I would fine them very unsettling to live with - too much like the Wells bar



the images I chose for the blog were not just the ones I like

some of them are too primitive for me

one of the things I admire about paintings is whn people can paint better than I can

incidentally, the only painting I do is with a 2 inch brush on the side of a boat


Dylan

 

[Bajansailor]

Aye, she has painted those waves brilliantly. From first hand experience in the Fastnet-before-last, when a storm came through, and many retired.
That picture reminded me of being hove to in Biscay in November - steely blue grey desolate sea and sky.

 

[dylanwinter]

just the time....

Aye, she has painted those waves brilliantly. From first hand experience in the Fastnet-before-last, when a storm came through, and many retired.
That picture reminded me of being hove to in Biscay in November - steely blue grey desolate sea and sky.

just the time I like to be safely tucked away up a tidal creek with the hook buried up to its shank in glutinous East Coast mud

Dylan

 

[KristiferColumbus]

Sorry but I think that modern art stuff is appalling.I have a picture on my wall before me by Montague Dawson entitled Glory of the Seas & I never tire of looking at it.The detail & realism is fantastic!Now there was a bloke that could really paint.
Dos'nt do me any harm either to know that I bought it for just a fiver in a charity shop

 

[dylanwinter]

All modern art?

Sorry but I think that modern art stuff is appalling.I have a picture on my wall before me by Montague Dawson entitled Glory of the Seas & I never tire of looking at it.The detail & realism is fantastic!Now there was a bloke that could really paint.
Dos'nt do me any harm either to know that I bought it for just a fiver in a charity shop

surely not all of it

and at one time Dawson was modern

for the search averse here is his work

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q="m...7nVAsTJswbMm5xI&ved=0CGMQsAQ&biw=1152&bih=582


so how much is your £5 image worth now?

Dylan

 

[KristiferColumbus]

surely not all of it

and at one time Dawson was modern

for the search averse here is his work

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q="m...7nVAsTJswbMm5xI&ved=0CGMQsAQ&biw=1152&bih=582


so how much is your £5 image worth now?

Dylan

The only "modern art" type thing I think I have seen & thought was wonderful Dylan was a painting that turned up on the Antiques Roadshow a few years ago that was a water colour I think of a camp site type scene showing a load of Arabs around a camp fire in the desert it had a wonderful mystical quality.I believe it was bought by one of our National Galleries.
Paintings by the likes of TS Lourie I think just show up people to be idiots.
Thanks for the link,old Montague is even better than I thought.Sadly my picture is just a print.(apologies to the aficionados of modern art but I think by & large they just undermine real quality).
Credit where credit is due.

PS:Come to think of it I have seen some very nice nudes by someone with a Russian sounding name quite recently.I might add his name later if I can find it.

 

[Gerry]

Just stumbled on your thread.

These, http://www.painefineart.com/chuckframes/index.html are an interesting collection by that great boat designer Chuck Pain. He designed the Bowman 40 and other great boats.

The better half used to have this fine painting http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/12737.html on his office wall, on loan from the Maritime Museum, what a great canvas that is. used to make me shudder everytime I walked in!
It was too big to have on the boat, we couldn't afford it and the Maritime museum wouldn't part with it anyway!

 

[jellylegs]

re modern art, you need to give it time. Need to be objective. Look at what the artist is saying. its amazing what is now deemed as traditional was once too radical to be shown. Turner, Constable, Michelangelo, vermeer.....list goes on, were way ahead of their time, and possibly still.

I have recently discovered james Dodds.

Also, the key to art is what you dont say, ie, leave out!

 

[Seajet]

Dylan,

it's probably corny but I've always liked this, possibly through my admiration of Pilot Cutters ( and a full size example is on the wall of the Victoria Inn, East Cowes )...

 

[dylanwinter]

two more links

Chuck Paine - very good indeed - really like his work

http://www.painefineart.com/chuckframes/gallerye.html


also these two from the states as well

Jime Cromartie

http://www.cromartiegallery.com/portf.php

and this guys photorealism is incredible

but just ever so slightly pointless

http://www.stevemillsart.com/galleries/DETAIL_unsold_new.php?recordID=705


any more to add to the pot

D

 

[Seajet]

Dylan,

is that the same Chuck Paine who designed lovely boats like the Frances 26 & Victoria 30 ?

If so I've sailed them then met him & chatted, a top bloke.

 

[dylanwinter]

the same

Dylan,

is that the same Chuck Paine who designed lovely boats like the Frances 26 & Victoria 30 ?

If so I've sailed them then met him & chatted, a top bloke.

same bloke

I guess a good eye is a good eye and it can be applied to lots of different disciplines

D

 

[Seajet]

same bloke

I guess a good eye is a good eye and it can be applied to lots of different disciplines

D

Dylan,

I completely agree!

However, try saying that to accountants...

Andy

 

[Danny Jo]

I love the way she renders the waves . . . but her pictures put the fear of god into me

I would fine them very unsettling to live with - too much like the Wells bar

I like many of the pictures you have chosen in much the same way that I liked "Four weddings and a funeral". A lot of skill and effort has gone into their production, and they make the viewer feel good. If they didn't do that, they wouldn't make money. Commercial "art" has to focus on pleasing the customer and by doing so struggles to find a distinction between itself and kitsch. Most of it, like kitsch, is ephemeral, yet some survives the test of time. I cannot tell if any of the pieces you selected will in future be hunted down by collectors and museums, but I doubt that the feel-good factor is a reliable guide. I have a sense that if a picture is both likeable and affordable, it can't be art, and is like Annie Hall's sex without love, a hollow pleasure. And as hollow pleasure's go, I'm with Woody Allen.

I can't resist putting in this link to Toya Walker's blog. Scroll down for a tribute to Amy Winehouse carved in pumpkin.

 

[Mukes]

http://www.seapicturesgallery.com/index.html

A gallery local to me that I enjoy with local marine artist focus.

 

[KristiferColumbus]

http://www.stevemillsart.com/galleries/DETAIL_unsold_new.php?recordID=705


any more to add to the pot

D

Now that is good but probably won't get anywhere because "experts" can't blather on & get their share of the action.

 

[snooks]

Alexander Creswell