Sailors are rich and privilaged!

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According to an oldish copy of Caravan Club Magazine I just read. Apparently it's unfair that we rich, refined yachtsmen should enjoy red diesel when the poor, working class camper-van man have to buy DERV.

Too right, bet they would just stare with envy at the interior of my lavishly appointed Centaur and dream of kipping under me saggy headlining.
 
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Bad spelling? Me/my? Ever heard the Cap'n say "Avast thar, MY hearties?

Oh, sorry. Just seen "working class camper-van man HAVE to buy DERV". Should of course read "working class camper-van man GOTTA buy DERV"
 
Sailors, rich and privileged?............well some of 'em are, and a lot of 'em aint, speaking for myself, if fivers were brain cells, I would be having a lot of trouble typing this! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bloke just down the road has got one of those camper vans, well I called it that and he got a bit upset, told me in no uncertain terms that it is not a camper van, it is a Motor Home! I said oh right, and what would one of those cost then, he told me that his cost him just under 25k, now hang on a minute! that's about 5 Westerly Nomads by my reckoning? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Have you seeen the current price of new 'Motorhomes'? I'm not talking about Transit Van camper conversions, but the kind of thing about the size of a furniture van, with many more mod cons than the average modern yacht. Even a new Tranny conversion will set you back £35k or more, and it doesnt even have FWD! A big Hymer, or whatever will leave little change from £100k

OK not as much as a new HR36 or whatever.

So who are 'rich and priviledged?' For that sort of Money I could buy a whole fleet of Eventides like mine and set up an 'Older Boat management School' - everything from crewing, to coping with rot in the bilges..... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
At an owners' assoiation rally a couple of years ago, a newcomer to sailing remarked that sailing types seemed a lot more sociable than the caravanners he knew. One reason, we decided, was because caravanners don't have to crawl across each other's roofs to get to their caravan once they've parked. (By then, most people were so sociable they were having trouble standing up).
I reckon if I sold Evadne I might just stretch to a tidy-ish VW camper van. It would probably use less fuel per mile under power, but I've always reckoned they a re a bit undercanvassed for proper sailing.
 
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I love caravans - on top gear when they play conquers with them using cranes, when they are fired over quarry craters, when they are blown up, used in fire tests, raced to destruction, driven at such high speed that the sides rip off in the wind, crushed by elepants, basically anything that gets them off the road. Curiously this disease seems confined to UK roads - must be the channel that stopped it spreading. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
We live in a beautiful part of the country and it I think the lakes with yachts and boats gliding about are part of the scenery. Also part of the scenery are camper vans.
Too wide
Too slow
Too many
Too ugly
Two fingers
 
Carefull!
The present cabinet which is supposed to have the ear of Mr. G. Brown contains at least one self-confessed caravanner.
Say nasty things about the breed and they'll take it out on us... red deisel will disappear faster than a government's principles after an election.
 
Why don't you lobby for red diesel be made available to caravanner's and you might get one cabinet members support to retaon cut priced fuel
 
Re: Sailors are rich and smug to boot!

Oh gawd! Did I write that self-serving, smug, stuck-up, drivel? Must have been feeling very sociable last night. Time to make amends - what, past the edit deadline? Where's my mummy when I need her?

Those of us that have gathered, albeit by sweat and tears, enough disposable cash to buy a boat for the pursuit of leisure owe a debt to the society we live in - if for no other reason than it provides us with the environment in which earn, the security to keep what we've earned, and the freedom to spend it on our chosen activity. We may not be any more privileged than the average caravan owner, but we are privileged. And by the standards of the poorest, anyone earning more than 10 dollars a day is rich.

Go on Mark, dig deeper. Show them that your not just smug, but a patronising prat as well.
 
I think that there is a risk that some people worry that their boats are too similar to caravans and protest too much, in order to try to put some clear blue (or muddy brown) water between themselves and the untouchables.

Me? I think back fondly to my many happy caravanning experiences. Hitching the 'van up to an old transit. Parking up at one of our many regular sites; using the bolt cutters to cut the padlock off the farmer's gate. Sitting round an open fire with the family, our faithful dogs growling by our side. The bailiffs; the craic....Ah how I miss those carefree days.
 
Why doesn't me local Chandler agree that you can be a sailor and not loaded and stop trying to sell me CCTV for my engine room integrated with the chart plotter I don't own and fancy shackles at a tenner. What about the 700plus quid I'll get charged next year for a few square feet of river bed and a chain.

Ah well winge over..
 
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