Sailing with a dog in UK waters

Can we at least get this well-healed bit right even if we cant agree on dogs.

It is "well -heeled" ie you are well off enough to have your shoes are properly repaired.

not "well-healed" like a scab on a wound
 
sailaboutvic said:
all way .
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Anyway you missed the obvious one. Old men smell of wee and sailing is full of old men.

Daydream believer is right - dogs do smell and so do houses where there is a dog. I love dogs and will have another one when we give up sailing, but that doesnt mean I have no sense of smell. But on a boat? It's not even that kind to the dog. Where does it poo and pee at sea? What do you do with a wet dog thats just been for a swim, or a paddle in the mud at the sea edge - and dont tell me that a wet dog doesnt stink cos it does.
 
Bosun Higgs said:
But on a boat? It's not even that kind to the dog. Where does it poo and pee at sea? What do you do with a wet dog thats just been for a swim, or a paddle in the mud at the sea edge - and dont tell me that a wet dog doesnt stink cos it does.
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We thought long and hard before we brought a dog on board.

We settled on a JRT pup. After 18 months she seems as happy as Larry. She produces two or three hard logs a day, easily dealt with. When she pees it is washed down with a couple of buckets of salt water.

She has NEVER crapped on the pontoon.

When she returns from a walk she enthusiastically jumps on board an rushes to her basket.

When we leave her - often for several hours - whilst we go off for self-imbibation- she NEVER jumps off the boat.

She is universally adored wherever we go.

Our view is that it is down to the breed and the age at which they are introduced to sailing. I would not like to comment on doing the same thing with a Rottweiler or Great Dane.

Edit: on the 'stinking' - I reckon I stink far more than she does.
 
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chinita said:
We don't really care about your views.

If you don't like dogs then **** off and read some other threads.
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I once went on a very pleasant evening sail with a chap and his dog. Dog jumped on board from the launch and settled down on the cockpit seats up against bulkhead and just went to sleep. Fortunately he picked the right side so didn't fall off when we hardened up on to the wind and started to heel a bit. At the sound of Ready About the dog opened one eye and looked at the helmsman and, on the sound of Helm's a Lee the dog gave a big sigh, got up and went over to the other side of the cockpit just as we tacked. I was very impressed. A bit later on I took the helm and the dog didn't sleep - just lay there with it's head on it's paws looking at me for about 5 minutes or so before presumably deciding he trusted my helming and going to sleep. Shortly afterwards I completely forgot about the dog as we were in amongst the moorings and there were other boats nearby - I just said Ready About then Lee-Oh and put the helm over. There followed a solid thud as the dog hit the cockpit sole. Dog didn't sleep after that - just looked at me reproachfully for the rest of the sail.
 
grumpy_o_g said:
I once went on a very pleasant evening sail with a chap and his dog. Dog jumped on board from the launch and settled down on the cockpit seats up against bulkhead and just went to sleep. Fortunately he picked the right side so didn't fall off when we hardened up on to the wind and started to heel a bit. At the sound of Ready About the dog opened one eye and looked at the helmsman and, on the sound of Helm's a Lee the dog gave a big sigh, got up and went over to the other side of the cockpit just as we tacked. I was very impressed. A bit later on I took the helm and the dog didn't sleep - just lay there with it's head on it's paws looking at me for about 5 minutes or so before presumably deciding he trusted my helming and going to sleep. Shortly afterwards I completely forgot about the dog as we were in amongst the moorings and there were other boats nearby - I just said Ready About then Lee-Oh and put the helm over. There followed a solid thud as the dog hit the cockpit sole. Dog didn't sleep after that - just looked at me reproachfully for the rest of the sail.
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I was wondering if I could teach my next dog to tack :)

Di
 
The chip is scanned on entry to the Uk so there is proof that it has entered the country correctly. Has to be chipped for the "Pet passprt" and proof of Rabies Vac etc.I do not see a problem
 
chinita said:
The problem is that you cannot provide an 'audit trail'.

I don't recall ever being given any form of paperwork relating to our dog when bringing it either through the tunnel or on the Spain - Portsmouth ferry.

Yes, the PP is checked at the port of departure but that is it.

Therefore, if you are questioned, you have no proof of your dog entering UK by an approved carrier.

Even if you provide documentation - a ticket for example, an official could argue that there is no proof that the dog with you is actually the same dog which came by authorised carrier - if you see what I mean.

The only possible way around it is if your friend asks the ferryport/tunnel checkers to record the microchip details on a headed and dated piece of paper. If you are questioned, request a microchip scan to verify those details.

In reality, I can't see it being a problem, I am just flagging it up for you.
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You just need to explain to the ferry company what your plan is and there will give you proof doc , if you go thought the tunnel there is a record but again they will give you a paper trail .

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hsteketee said:
I am planning a three weeks' summer cruise from the Netherlands to the Isle of Wight and beyond. According to UK Customs and DEFRA I am not allowed to bring a dog to the UK on a private yacht, even if the dog meets the rules of the current Pet Travel Scheme (which allows you to bring your dog to the UK without quarantine). My plan is to have one crew member bring the dog via one of the approved routes for the PETS Scheme (ie Channel tunnel or ferry) and then bring the dog onboard in the UK. This would seem legally okay, but will a Dutch-flagged yacht with a dog on board face continuous checks in British ports?
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I have Dutch friends, who regularly bring dogs over to the UK (land based). They live in Goes, so happy to pm their telephone number, if you need to talk to sensible people.
 
hsteketee said:
I am planning a three weeks' summer cruise from the Netherlands to the Isle of Wight and beyond. According to UK Customs and DEFRA I am not allowed to bring a dog to the UK on a private yacht, even if the dog meets the rules of the current Pet Travel Scheme (which allows you to bring your dog to the UK without quarantine). My plan is to have one crew member bring the dog via one of the approved routes for the PETS Scheme (ie Channel tunnel or ferry) and then bring the dog onboard in the UK. This would seem legally okay, but will a Dutch-flagged yacht with a dog on board face continuous checks in British ports?
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My dog travels regularly with his pet passport & no, you are correct, he cannot enter the UK on anything other than an approved carrier. Hence when I return to Chichester, I will be sailing Flora & HWIMBO will be chauffeuring the dog in the campervan, on the ferry. You seem to have the system cracked, but no one has really answered the question of later on. From memory, the dog is listed on the booking form for either the ferry or on Eurotunnel. I am sure that their Customer Services department will be able to assist with proof of travel - on that day. The other option is to use a pet transport company - they advertise a lot in the French property magazines - and I would imagine that their travel paperwork would be more specific to your pet.

As for the question will you face continuous checks in British ports - who knows? It depends probably on the Harbour Masters you meet and if they feel it is their duty to report a possible quarantine violation. THB, if I were you I would just come to France. Dog friendly, masses of great places to cruise, marinas generally bigger & cheaper (so space available) & no hassle. There was a german yacht in Cherbourg last week with a ship's cat on board and several foreign boats with dogs onboard. Why you would contemplate the UK, I don't know!!

Di
 
hsteketee said:
This would seem legally okay, but will a Dutch-flagged yacht with a dog on board face continuous checks in British ports?
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UK border controls are almost completely ineffective which is how we have a million illegal immigrants. It would be extremely bad luck if you were to get caught sailing from holland to the UK with the dog on board your yacht.
 
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