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Hello. Haven't posted here before, just a reader, so apologies if this is not allowed, but I reckon this is is a good idea. Wikis have been around for a while and a sailing wiki was crying out to be done. So we made one. Have a look here.

http://www.skipper2skipper.com

No idea if this sort of thing would appeal, but at least it's there. I think it might benefit people, especially those sailing in remote locations. Anyway, moderators, feel free to delete this posting if it breaks the rules of the forum.

All the best
Peter
 
Granted, you'd be crazy to navigate with it, but I think it would be great for general info, in terms of who liked what, what's being dredged where, etc etc. Something not sponsored by the marinas. That sort of thing. Something that you would not necessarily notice on a forum, unless it is very specific. And if enough people contribute, well, I think it might be useful. Time will tell, as they say. Thanks for your thoughts!
 
You should take more care with the layout of your site.

Croatia is given its proper place, with its own box, even though it is only a few years old.

However, Ireland is considered part of the United Kingdom, which is a union of the kingdoms of England and Scotland, in which Ireland does not participate, by its own expressed wish, as manifested on many occassions over 700 years of history. For nearly 100 years it has existed in its present socio-political form as an independent state.

Please correct what I consider is a typical British gaff, and an insult to your neighbours. With all that has happened over the last few centuries, I would have thought that the british nation would by now have got it right. But that seems an impossibility.
 
Changed, no insult intended. But, in a way, that's the whole point, it's not my site, that would be utterly pointless, it's a wiki, you can change it too.
 
You probably have the page cached. Hit SHIFT-F5 to reload, under each country there is an Edit Menu link. Click on Ireland and take Southern Ireland out, put a comment in, click save. Then click on Edit Menu for UK and add the line you took out, add a comment, click save.

Last thing I wanted was to get political about these things, if anyone else thinks that something is amiss, just change it. Just don't forget to put a comment in that you did it, at the bottom of the page!
 
thanks! Some issues with the linking which I fixed, the wiki is not 100% clever at times, you have to follow a syntax, which is a bit arcane occasionally. Have a look at the help, there is a small tutorial there, but I generally just look at the formatting around the bit I want to change, usually easy to spot how to go about it, just follow the random symbols on the other lines, that sort of thing. Anyway, cheers for contributing.
 
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That's what I had assumed.

However, the mistake is quite annoying, as it appears with irritating frequency, leading me to think there is something missing in the British educational system -- like a re-make of atlases that show the British Isles as including both islands.

Tonight, a Spanish television programme spoke at length on the political situation in Northern Ireland, using the phrase "Islas Britanicas" so often as to get on my nerves.

Coming across the Wiki was then just the last straw.
 
I'm not sure if it translates across exactly, but I've always understood the phrase "British Isles" to be a purely geographic descriptor of a particular group of islands off mainland Europe, but having no political overtones at all. A bit like the Balearics or the Canaries, no?
 
The British Isles is the correct name for the large group of over 700 islands off the West coast of Europe. Great Britain is just the island containing the states of England, Wales and Scotland. Eire is the republican state on the island of Ireland, the northern part of which "belongs" to the UK by, 1) the wishes of the majority of the population, and 2) the fact that we had a big enough army to nick it off the original rulers ages ago ...
 
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I see nothing wrong in the concept....but why? The great thing about these forums is the 'peer review' that takes place (not always amicably!!). I don't think I'd put much trust in a sailing WIKI.

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But that's the whole point of a wiki, entries are continually peer reviewed. But unlike these forums the results stay together in a single article rather than being totally inaccessible because they are scattered over dozens of threads over many years. I don't bother to 'peer review' some errors of fact when they appear here for the 10th time or more.

Take an example, splitters on VHF antennas, this has been raised many many times, sometimes knowledgeable people (not me!) have contributed, sometimes hey have not. Sometimes a sensible discussion has happened, sometimes it has not. Different threads have reached totally different conclusions or none at all. Often one person’s prejudices have dominated. How nice if all this wisdom could be distilled into a single article.

I am not saying that this chap’s wiki is the solution – but I am saying that the forum approach, while sometimes entertaining, is a pretty awful way of synthesising complex arguments and making the output available.
 
Despite any recent historical connections, we are really quite keen to crack on and get to the top of this stupid poll (Ireland ranked as second wealthiest country) and have therefore decided to withdraw any reference to the UK whatsoever and are dropping this British Isle nonsense (Folens to wipe 'British Isles' off the map in new atlas) in an attempt to gain a favourable status once again with the rest of the world (outside the 51 states). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Nice idea. But how the hell do I post my website into this without hours of typing?

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Thanks! You can cut and paste most of it in :-) Plus, other people will format when they come accross it, no doubt, to give you a hand. There are some contributers that are working on the Greece and Turkey sections, but no Spain at the moment. Feel free to start, have a look at how the other content is organised and once you have a page, add it to the menu, I've made one for Spain.
 
You're quite right. Its those damned Latins and Anglo-Saxons that seem to cock it up with great regularity.

You just know if they submitted to their proper Norman masters that we could clean the whole situation up with no more than just a little wanton killing and bloodlust, well probably no more than 20%, which would be good for reducing the drains of unemployment and the NHS as well as promoting the interests of solicitors, accountants, high court judges, undertakers and coffin makers. We would also then be more able to accept the next influx of citizens from newly acceeded states to the EU, together with the benefits of a more stable property market which would be essential with so many first time buyers entering the country.
But please don't confuse the adopted name for the British archipelago - which is I beleive the technically correct description - with the United Kingdom which only occupies part of the archipelago.

Long may the Independent state of Eire continue and please don't blame us for the idiocy of our forebears.
 
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