Sailing dingy & SSR requirement in France

[Cloven]

Does a small (sub 4 metre) sailing dinghy need an SSR in France? Hunted through the RYA site plus Google but to no avail. Can anyone shed any light on this question.

I know that certain sizes/types of watercraft are classed as "beach toys" - windsurfers etc - & need no registration but not sure where sailing dinghies fit into this. I have seen a lot of dinghies/small catamarans etc used by French sailing schools and they do not seem to carry any registration.

Any help appreciated

Thanks

 

[Tranona]

The answer is yes - clearly says so in both the general information on taking a boat abroad and in the France page on the RYA site. You need to show evidence of nationality which in practical terms means SSR.

 

[Cloven]

The answer is yes - clearly says so in both the general information on taking a boat abroad and in the France page on the RYA site. You need to show evidence of nationality which in practical terms means SSR.

Thanks for the confirmation. I thought this would be the case.

 

[LadyInBed]

Also Cert of Competency for a boat launched in France.
Sail it from UK to France and you won't need it

 

[westernman]

Does a small (sub 4 metre) sailing dinghy need an SSR in France? Hunted through the RYA site plus Google but to no avail. Can anyone shed any light on this question.

I know that certain sizes/types of watercraft are classed as "beach toys" - windsurfers etc - & need no registration but not sure where sailing dinghies fit into this. I have seen a lot of dinghies/small catamarans etc used by French sailing schools and they do not seem to carry any registration.

Any help appreciated

Thanks

Sailing dinghies and catamarans etc are all supposed to have a "carte de circulation" - which is basically a registration certificate. I had one for my Hobie Cat - I am sure the sailing school had them for every one of its craft. In theory, you can be asked for it by the Gendarmes, Polices, Douanes etc at any time when on the water or retrieving your dinghy on the beach.

I have never been asked for it and I don't know anybody who has. I don't know anybody who takes it with them on the water either.

Beach toys don't need them. I think beach toys are not supposed to be used more than 300m from the beach. Windsurfers count as beach toys and have no registration of any kind.

A boat with a "carte de circulation" is not supposed to go more than a certain distance from a safe haven either - I think it is two miles.

 

[Cloven]

Sailing dinghies and catamarans etc are all supposed to have a "carte de circulation" - which is basically a registration certificate. I had one for my Hobie Cat - I am sure the sailing school had them for every one of its craft. In theory, you can be asked for it by the Gendarmes, Polices, Douanes etc at any time when on the water or retrieving your dinghy on the beach.

I have never been asked for it and I don't know anybody who has. I don't know anybody who takes it with them on the water either.

Beach toys don't need them. I think beach toys are not supposed to be used more than 300m from the beach. Windsurfers count as beach toys and have no registration of any kind.

A boat with a "carte de circulation" is not supposed to go more than a certain distance from a safe haven either - I think it is two miles.

Michael

Thanks for that. Just looked at the offical French website http://vosdroits.service-public.fr/F2071.xhtml and it would appear that the carte de circulation only applies to:

Bateau concerné
Enregistrement obligatoire

Le bateau de plaisance français qui navigue ou stationne sur les eaux intérieures nationales doit être enregistré s'il correspond à une des situations suivantes :

il mesure plus de 5 mètres et moins de 20 mètres de long et le produit de la longueur, de la largeur et du tirant d'eau est inférieur à 100 m3,

ou il mesure 5 mètres ou moins et sa puissance motrice est égale ou supérieure à 4,5 kilowatts.

which roughly translates as:

vessel concerned
registration required

The French yacht that sails or national parks on inland waters must be registered if it meets one of the following situations:

it is more than 5 meters and less than 20 meters long and the product of the length, width and draft of water is less than 100 m3,

or it is 5 m or less and the engine power is equal to or more than 4.5 kilowatts.

So it would appear that a dinghy that is less than 5m and either solely under sail/oar power or with a motor of less than 4.5 kilowatts (approx 6HP) does not need a carte de circulation.

Out of interest, I downloaded the application form and again the bumf at the top of the form states:

Démarche obligatoire pour les bateaux d’une longueur supérieure à 5 mètres et inférieure à 20 mètres ou d’une puissance propulsive installée supérieure à 4,5 kilowatts et dont le produit de la longueur, de la largeur et du tirant d’eau est inférieur à 100 mètre cubes.


Compulsory process for vessels with a length greater than 5 meters and less than 20 meters or installed propulsion power greater than 4.5 kW and whose product of the length, width and draft less 100 cubic meter.