Sailing Bye

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Re: Sailing By

It certainly is, and also serves a useful purpose for the good old R4 Con(tinuity) Announcer. I'm also rather fond of the UK Theme in the morning...

There is just one snag for me with the 0048 Shipping Forecast - I used to listen to it, and then leave the radio on to lull me to sleep. Now I work for the BBC World Service, who take over the R4 FM frequency at 0100, I can't listen anymore, as I wake up with a start every time I hear the pips, thinking I've fallen asleep on a nightshift!!

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Re: No it isn\'t

It drags you kicking and screaming into the morning. It's pap. and if you spent some years with the RDF set as your primary way of listening to R4 it's painfuly long.

My suggestion for a replacement would be "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" or failing that "The Ying Tong Song". Considering the rubbish that is your modern forecast perhaps "For Those In Peril On The Deep" might be more suitable though.

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When did it start?

I have a clear memory of listening to it in 1974; I don't remember it before then. Does anyone know when it was first used?

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Re: No it isn\'t

Yer right, pap it is. I set my alarm for 0530, switch on and turn the volume right down until the 'theme' is over - hoping I dont nod off - which has happened!. We need something brighter, like, 'Oh, What a Beautiful Morning', even if it isn't.

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Re: No it isn\'t

It must be a long time since you heard Sailing Bye - it is only broadcast just before the 0048 shippers.

What you are grizzling about is the UK Theme just before the 0535

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who are interested in such things, don't have to get the early forecast as the nice Solent CG knock it out at more cilvilized times.

Didn't they used to do both tunes in the morning? Sailing Bye's that lush strings number isn't. Sort of Mantovani with added syrup.

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Re: When did it start?

I think it was in use before 1974 - a distant memory of hearing it when I first started night-sailing regularly, around 1970. As a hunch, possibly 1967, when the radio frequencies were changed and 1500 metres transferred from the Light Programme (now R2) to Radio 4, which at that time used a continuity theme tune for many of its programmes. Some other longstanding ones like 'The Archers' and 'Desert Island Discs' on R4 have retained theirs. The Shipping Forecast stayed on 1500 metres because transmission was further.

It was written by Ronald Binge in 1963. As Peppermint guessed, he was an arranger for Mantovani. Apparently it was dropped because after his death the BBC resented paying a substantial royalty to his family each time it was used. (I was much relieved because of the number of times it lulled me to sleep just before the forecast came on).

Does anyone know when the shipping forecast itself started, in its modern form? Possibly in 1949: it subsequently became incorporated as part of SOLAS 1974 arrangements. The Met Office itself first broadcast weather forecasts in 1922.
 
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