muendo
Member
Anybody any experience with this sail flaking system:
Dutchman sail flaking system
Seems easy, would be easy to make yourself......?????
Dutchman sail flaking system
Seems easy, would be easy to make yourself......?????
sail flaking Dutchman
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TigaWave
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I've used it on one boat, it does work but not really any better than normal lazy jacks attached to the sides of a stack pack type with track and roller cars on the mast.
On the boat I used it (a Santa cruz 70 set up for single handing), where the lines ran through holes in the sail there had been some damage. The grommets had eother broken or worn out and the lines were sliding on the sail cloth when it was hoisted and dropped. Having said that it was a pretty old sail and stack system.
Lazy jacks will keep the sail straight and will drop it in the bag, a line conntrolled zip meant we could drop and zip up from the cockpit in seconds, not even head to wind.
On the boat I used it (a Santa cruz 70 set up for single handing), where the lines ran through holes in the sail there had been some damage. The grommets had eother broken or worn out and the lines were sliding on the sail cloth when it was hoisted and dropped. Having said that it was a pretty old sail and stack system.
Lazy jacks will keep the sail straight and will drop it in the bag, a line conntrolled zip meant we could drop and zip up from the cockpit in seconds, not even head to wind.
Hardley
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I've had this system on my boat for 17 years and I think it is better than most other systems that I have seen.
You will need a sailmaker to fit fairleads in sail, a word of cuasion here, make sure your sailmaker fits the forward row far enough back, so that the forward Dutchman line does not catch around the spreader when on the run, or you could end up with a Chinese gybe.
You will need a sailmaker to fit fairleads in sail, a word of cuasion here, make sure your sailmaker fits the forward row far enough back, so that the forward Dutchman line does not catch around the spreader when on the run, or you could end up with a Chinese gybe.
jaycee
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Hi,I have the Dutchman on my 32ft. colvic atlanta and they work fine,makes stacking much easier especially single handed.They came with the boat and the main was made by CRUSADER specificaly for the dutchman,so I am unaware of the extra cost involved.
Danny
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I had experience of this system on a Hunter Passage 42 some years ago. It seemed a good system in principle but on this particular boat it didn't work well. The lines coming down from the topping lift and threading through the mainsail were like heavy gauge monofilament fishing line. Maybe these had stretched and needed readjusting (it was a chartered boat) but the sail never stacked itself on the boom effectively. It would always sag to one side - which probably stretched the lines even more. This was years ago but as I recall the sail cover was a bit complicated as well - to fit around the lines.
I also sailed another boat once where the lines were not threaded through the sail but were doubled with one line of each pair running down each side of the sail. Sort of cross between a dutchman and lazyjacks. This effectively 'trapped' the sail between them. It appeared to work reasonably well, guiding the sail as it dropped and preventing it from sagging off the boom. The sail still needed some flaking afterwards to make a neat job though.
I also sailed another boat once where the lines were not threaded through the sail but were doubled with one line of each pair running down each side of the sail. Sort of cross between a dutchman and lazyjacks. This effectively 'trapped' the sail between them. It appeared to work reasonably well, guiding the sail as it dropped and preventing it from sagging off the boom. The sail still needed some flaking afterwards to make a neat job though.
