Sail and rigging layout

[barson]

Slowly getting to know myGRP Folkboat. Mast has the standard genoa/job forestay, came with 1-4 sails. Fine so far. Has a second halyard emerging from mast about 1/3 way up. Hmmm. For storm jib?? Another halyard existing 2/3 way up. Hmm again. Has three tracks on mast front - centre one short and with ring on car - presumably for spinnaker pole? The two longer tracks either side of centre have a pully at the top, but nothing on the track. In a locker are two rings on cars similar to the centre track one. Boat came with spinnaker and twin running sails, two spinnaker poles. Have used a spinnaker (on a Fireball) but never twin running sails - although I think I undertand the principle. Therefore - advice appreciated on how all the ropes and cloth bits at the sharp end should be used.

Also interested in hearing/discussing with another Folkboat owner.

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[Joe_Cole]

Wouldn't the halliard third of the way up the mast be the uphaul for the spinnaker pole? Surely the storm sail would be set using the genoa halliard?

Maybe the second halliard is also for an uphaul when the second spinnaker pole is in use. Though I don't know why it would be at a different height.

On a Folkboat the sheave at the top of the tracks would be sufficient to raise the pole ends at the mast, but I can't understand why there are no cars
The cars on the genoa sheet tracks (i.e. on deck) don't fit the tracks on the mast sides do they? Just a thought.

It sounds as if you're going to have lots of string to pull about!



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[snowleopard]

there are 2 ways to rig twins- from a pair of conventional poles such as you have or as a 'twistle' rig where the pole heels are pivoted just behind the forestay.

for conventional twins it is common to use eg. no 1 genoa one side & No 2 the other, thereby requiring different pole heights, hence the longer tracks. (the short track is probably for a conventional spinaker).

the twistle rig is usually set with the poles attatched to a halliard set up tight just behind the forestay- your 2/3 height halliard could do this. the principle is that this allows the poles to swing forward and spill the wind. it also prevents the alternating direction of wind flow over the sail which causes the 'death roll'

sounds like the previous owner was a real string fiddler. did he do any long passages?

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[barson]

The boat is interesting for the number of what seem to be 'additional' bits and pieces - at least more than my limited experience is aware of. Makes sense that the two longer outside tracks would each carry a car for the genoa on that side, with the shorter more traditional middle one being the 'normal' carrier for a spinnaker. Boat came with light spinnaker-fabric twin running sails as well as the genoas. So thanks. Now I'll try and make sense of teh rest of it. In one way it doesn't matter - sails well and I'm having fun at the base main/genoa level.

No other Folkboat in my town to compare with.


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[Spuddy]

Can't contribute on the bits of string. I'm still concerned about this leak of mine.
However - you presumably mean the fully branded Folkboat? I've seen some out round the Solent; the locals from there could say from which club or marina no doubt. The RYA website certainly has class association details. There's one in Gillingham marina, an according to the rules GRP clinker model but don't know where you are.
Mine is some sort of aged relative. It's a 35 year old Folkdancer. Virtually the same lines but with a bit more freeboard forw'd and a counter at the back. Repairs have meant I'm a boat owner but barely a sailor of my boat yet. Next year in Jerusalem maybe.

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[Spuddy]

Can't contribute on the bits of string. I'm still concerned about this leak of mine.
However - you presumably mean the fully branded Folkboat? I've seen some out round the Solent; the locals from there could say from which club or marina no doubt. The RYA website certainly has class association details. There's one in Gillingham marina, an according to the rules GRP clinker model but don't know where you are.
Mine is some sort of aged relative. It's a 35 year old Folkdancer. Virtually the same lines but with a bit more freeboard forw'd and a counter at the back. Repairs have meant I'm a boat owner but barely a sailor of my boat yet. Next year in Jerusalem maybe.

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[barson]

Sorry - should have said where. Bit far from the Solent - south-east Australia. Its a GRP Marieholm Folkboat - or one of the close replicas. No leaks, thank goodness. And yes, probably more time repairing/fiddling than sailing. But soon...

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