Sadler 26 Halyard Lengths

timb

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Can anybody point me in the right direction for finding out the lengths of the halyards on my Sadler 26?
I want to order some before I have to take them down and measure them.

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do u have a sail plan pythagoruis ( sorry about spelling in advance )
u could simply hoist a suitable tape measure ( 30 m ) & simply measure. or tie a piece of line & measure once down on deck, a bit of laterial thinking imho

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I have Pythagerous (???) in my head but unfortunatley no sail plan, this is a new boat to me (my first) and I am learning all the time.

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well spelling not 2 bad then!! 8/10 ??..
suggest hoist string & measure as stated add atleast 2 m for spare as too short a halliard is a pain & u cant re-splice or move the wear points by shifting the shackle.,
have u checked for "sadler" web-sites
good luck

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Thanks, I went to Mike Lucas's excellent website it gave rig measurments
I 31.00 ft 9.45 m
J 10.40 ft 3.17 m
P 26.31 ft 8.02 m
E 8.50 ft 2.59 m

What do the letters refer to?

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Instead of explaining the letters, why don't you do what did? Buy some cheap thin line and mouse the halyards. If you are careful, you can pull the thin line through instead of the existing halyards and measure them on the ground.

Have you thought of just washing the old ones or are they badly chafed and worn? If it is just dirt, a quick wash through the washing machine will work wonders!

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Hello Tim...

Normally this forum is full of quick and easy answers, dunno why you didn't get a good reply. Permit me to offer this:

I= distance from stemhead up to where the forestay attaches to the mast. Or, the length of your forestay.
J= Distance from forestay to the front of the mast.
P= Distance from top of mast to gooseneck (where the boom meets the mast)
E= Length of the boom.

These numbers are used by a sailmaker to design sails for your boat.
J = the length of the spinnaker pole, as well.

To calculate halyard lengths, you need to use the I and P numbers and add the distance to wherever the halyard is cleated. Plus a meter or two for fudge factor.

Thus, your main halyard is:
P x 2 + distance from gooseneck to deck + distance to cleat + 2 meters fudge.

Thus, your genoa/jib halyard is I + P + distance from gooseneck to deck + distance to cleat + 2 meters fudge.

The fudge factor is handy: after a few years you can reverse the run of the halyards to eliminate wear on the rope where it meets the cleat.

A long tape measure can be used:

attach it to the existing main halyard, hoist to the top of the mast and you have the P measured from the gooseneck.

attach it to the existing genoa halyard, hoist to the top of the mast and you have I measured from the stemhead.

When it comes to calculating lengths of rope or line on a boat,
ALWAYS: measure it twice and cut it once!

best,
Bob, in Dublin



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