Essex Lad
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Spoke to Harbour Office. It was the fishing boat pontoon - first in the harbour. Details in news story at ECS.
Sad news...
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Cobra
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Just popped down to the hard to take a quick look across the river. Judging from how the damage has occurred, it would seem that he was trying to get between the Fishermans Pontoon and St Osyth beach! 
There is being off course and being off course, but that would have been interesting to have watched!!
There is being off course and being off course, but that would have been interesting to have watched!!
GrumpyOldGit
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The damage to the St osyth shore Fishermans pontoon is expected to cost £50-60k to repair.
Terry the fisherman was on his boat in the engine room as the ship attacked the pontoon and was only warned off by a foghorn being sounded on another moored vessel, he jumped ship and ran away from the oncoming behemoth.
His fishing boat was damaged along with two other boats on the pontoon.
It appears that the Pilot was misled by the Captain of the cargo ship, who advised that the vessel was crewed by fluent English speakers but once under way he received no helpful comments in English from anyone.
The Captain retains responsibility for his ship at all times and ordered that she be taken into port despite the zero visibility, the Pilot is aboard only in an advisory capacity and was, in this instance, ignored.
BHC will not be paying for any of the repairs, which are likely to reach £250k , as the ship's insurers have already admitted liability and their loss adjuster has already visited and begun pricing up the works involved.
Still amazed they got a ship that big up the wrong side of the South pontoon, touched bottom there many times at half tide with 6' draught...
Terry the fisherman was on his boat in the engine room as the ship attacked the pontoon and was only warned off by a foghorn being sounded on another moored vessel, he jumped ship and ran away from the oncoming behemoth.
His fishing boat was damaged along with two other boats on the pontoon.
It appears that the Pilot was misled by the Captain of the cargo ship, who advised that the vessel was crewed by fluent English speakers but once under way he received no helpful comments in English from anyone.
The Captain retains responsibility for his ship at all times and ordered that she be taken into port despite the zero visibility, the Pilot is aboard only in an advisory capacity and was, in this instance, ignored.
BHC will not be paying for any of the repairs, which are likely to reach £250k , as the ship's insurers have already admitted liability and their loss adjuster has already visited and begun pricing up the works involved.
Still amazed they got a ship that big up the wrong side of the South pontoon, touched bottom there many times at half tide with 6' draught...
Bru
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Curiosity leads to to query the pilot being on board in an "advisory capacity"
My understanding of maritime law is that in compulsory pilotage waters, the authority to direct the navigation of the vessel is vested in the pilot
The master can discharge the pilot at any time but must then request a replacement pilot before proceeding excepting only when the safety of the vessel requires the master to continue without a pilot
The master can, of course, order his crew to proceed overrulling the directions of the pilot since the master has the power to order the crew
Although US centric, the following article written by a US pilot is quite illuminating ...
http://www.impahq.org/technology/article_1228231036.pdf
My understanding of maritime law is that in compulsory pilotage waters, the authority to direct the navigation of the vessel is vested in the pilot
The master can discharge the pilot at any time but must then request a replacement pilot before proceeding excepting only when the safety of the vessel requires the master to continue without a pilot
The master can, of course, order his crew to proceed overrulling the directions of the pilot since the master has the power to order the crew
Although US centric, the following article written by a US pilot is quite illuminating ...
http://www.impahq.org/technology/article_1228231036.pdf
GrumpyOldGit
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Spent about 2hrs on Monday evening with another of the Brightlingsea Pilots and am simply relaying his viewpoint on the piloting responsibilities, I would not doubt the guy as he was a senior Pilot at Harwich and Felixstowe for many years and has certainly 'Made his bones' on the job.
However, I always listen to the other side of a dispute before making a decision and now, armed with your comments, I Plump for the Pilot's experience and statements.
I await correction in due course !
However, I always listen to the other side of a dispute before making a decision and now, armed with your comments, I Plump for the Pilot's experience and statements.
I await correction in due course !
Bru
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Interesting, wouldn't argues with info straight from the guys at the sharp end of course, one adds a little bit too ones knowledge every day
Damn silly of the master tho ignore the pilot anyway!
Damn silly of the master tho ignore the pilot anyway!
chinita
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My little boat has suffered immense damage and needs a new rig, engine and keel bolts.
SWMBO suffered whiplash and our little JRT is undergoing counseling.
OK, we were about 300 yards away on the South Pontoon but............
where do I claim???