RYA report on UKBA

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I see Sailorman's scan has been deleted from the OP,
Probably more a hiccup on the photo site where the scan resided than any censorship.

Here's the extract that I OCR'd from my copy of the RYA Magazine:

Legal - Onboard with the UKBA

Last year, the RYA wrote to the Government to challenge the UK Border Agency's 'stop and search' techniques. This followed a number of letters from members who felt that their treatment by the UKBA was 'heavy-handed'.

It was a question which had the RYA membership divided; some feeling that being boarded was actually quite justified, and a little exciting, others finding it an outrageous invasion of their privacy.

It clearly made a few members of the UKBA sit up and think, too, and the RYA was invited aboard HM Cutter, Valiant, to discuss the UKBA's approach to the boarding of yachts. The RYA's Sam Jefferson, was one of those stepping aboard. Here is his report.

The UKBA
From a personal point of view, I was very interested to find out more about the UKBA, particularly as the last time I had encountered these guys I had found myself staring down the barrel of a submachine gun while they rummaged through our boat off Dartmouth. Not particularly what you want after a gruelling delivery trip, but a very good story nonetheless.

That was back in 2000, a simpler time when they were known as HMRC; the name had changed, but these guys were keen to stress that their work has remained the same.

Doug McLellan is the Assistant Director of the Maritime and Aviation Operations of the UKBA, and he clearly feels very passionate about the wealth of history and knowledge within the organisation.

'HM Customs has been patrolling the seas around the UK for more than 400 years and we pride ourselves on the skills and knowledge that come with that heritage,' he says. 'The change from HMRC to UKBA has caused some confusion, but essentially the work we do has not changed at all, although obviously we are constantly modernising.'

Their work is also pretty exciting: a fleet of five cutters patrols the seas around the UK, using their speed to ensure they are in the right place at the right time. Much of their work involves intercepting drug shipments, and with 35-45 metric tonnes coming into the country every year, they have their work cut out.

Stepping aboard Valiant, it was clear that this is a very professional unit and, chatting to the crew members, it was also clear that they were very proud of the work they do. Of course, it's essentially good work - hunting down the bad guys and seizing the drugs - that kind of stuff. It's all very laudable.

Why board smaller yachts?
The question that remains, however, is what has that got to do with tramping aboard the yachts of bewildered RYA members out for a coastal trip and demanding personal information from them?

Well, according to the UKBA, quite a lot, and this is down to one simple statistic: around 80 per cent of the drug seizures made by the UKBA are from yachts. Doug explains, 'In recent years, drug smuggling has become increasingly sophisticated, and one of the main ways of getting drugs into the country is by a method known as coopering.

'This involves transferring drugs from a mother ship, which will not stray into territorial waters, onto a smaller daughter ship, which then makes the drop. A small yacht can be an ideal daughter ship, so even if you're on a coastal passage, we still need to be able to check what you are doing. The fact that one of our biggest seizures was from a beautiful 42ft ketch illustrates this point.'

Boarding methods
That's all very well, but what about the 'heavy-handed' boarding techniques, and hair-raising tales of men in black helmets marching down below with barely a 'hello' between them?

'Basically, we try to be as friendly as possible, but you have to remember that every vessel has to be treated as suspicious until we have checked it,' says Doug. 'People who are smuggling tend to be pretty desperate characters, and officers have died on operations, so we have to take it seriously.

'We generally send two crew aboard and while one chats in the cockpit, the other heads down below to check for booby traps. Booby-trapped boats are fitted with an explosive device, which means that if they are boarded, they blow up and destroy the evidence. Members of the boarding party have to keep their helmets on as these have their radio communications equipment built into them - just like the RNLI's.

The RYA fully supports the UKBA's efforts to secure the UK border against drug trafficking, terrorism, illegal immigration and other criminal activity

In terms of the boarding party being armed, this would only occur if we were carrying out a special operation with the police or special forces. Our crews never carry guns themselves and if we are running an operation with the police or special forces then it's generally because we have strong intelligence to suggest there are weapons onboard the target vessel.'

Out on the water
Naturally, the UKBA were keen to show us what they did, so on a glorious winter morning we cruised around the Solent and stopped a couple of hapless, innocent vessels.

Recreational boaters are generally a pretty happy bunch, and this was certainly reflected in the reception the UKBA crew got when they hopped aboard. For most of us, the whole thing is a bit of a novelty and a good story to tell when you get back to port. Besides which, we're all keen to help out when it comes to keeping our borders safe.

But the point is that many of you have objected to rather heavy-handed intrusions by the UKBA in and around the Solent. It was obvious to me that the difference between a stressful, intrusive boarding and a good-humoured one is all in the attitude of the boarding parties involved. Seamanship can also play a hand in this, and there were a number of stories from RYA members of poor boat handling creating a fraught situation.

Doug gave us his thoughts on this. 'We really do pride ourselves on our seamanship and I would take any story of bad boat handling very seriously. All of our guys are very rigorously trained and we all understand the sea and boats, so bad handling would be seen as a very serious issue.
'We try to make sure that all the crews have a friendly approach, but you do have to remember that we are doing a serious and potentially dangerous job.'

UKBA powers
The UKBA mainly relies on the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979 and the Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990 for its powers.

The 1979 Act gives the UKBA wide powers to board any ship and 'rummage and search any part' at any time while a ship is within the 'limits of a port'. Unlike harbour authorities, whose limits generally do not extend far out to sea beyond the harbour entrance, for the purposes of the 1979 Act the 'limits of a port' extend to the seaward limit of the territorial sea and so the whole of the UK territorial sea falls within the 'limits of a port' as far as the UKBA is concerned.

The 1990 Act essentially implemented the 1988 Vienna Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances and gives the UKBA powers to stop, board and search a ship and to demand information (and documents) relating to the ship or anyone on it, but these powers are restricted to the detection and enforcement of drug-trafficking offences.

Doug accepted that the UKBA did not have general authority to require yachtsmen to produce documents they were not obliged by law to carry but he emphasised that a refusal by yachtsmen to cooperate might raise his officers' suspicions and extend the time that they needed to spend in satisfying themselves that a yacht was entirely innocent.

Working together
We were keen to point out to our hosts that the RYA fully supports the UKBA's efforts to secure the UK border against drug trafficking, terrorism, illegal immigration and other criminal activity. But we reminded the UKBA that the people best placed to identify unusual or suspicious activity within the recreational sector were yachtsmen themselves. The UKBA therefore needed to ensure that it had the support, cooperation and goodwill of recreational boaters. The RYA explained that if the UKBA was perceived by yachtsmen to be taking a heavy-handed or insensitive approach to its boarding of yachts then it risked alienating yachtsmen and creating a more hostile environment in which to operate.

'The last thing we want to do is upset the recreational boaters, as they are a vital source of intelligence to us and we really do value their help,' says Doug. 'To upset them is no good for us at all. We are still doing what Customs has done for the last 400 years, and law-abiding boaters are a key to us succeeding.

'We are all seafarers and we respect boaters and what they do, and our aim is for our conduct to gain similar respect.

The RYA will be holding regular meetings with the UKBA to address any issues that arise from HM Cutter activity in the recreational boating sector. Please let us know of any 'stop and search' operations involving yachts that you would like us to discuss with the UKBA.
 
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Legal - Onboard with the UKBA...it was clear that this is a very professional unit ...
Doug gave us his thoughts on this. 'We really do pride ourselves on our seamanship and I would take any story of bad boat handling very seriously. All of our guys are very rigorously trained and we all understand the sea and boats, so bad handling would be seen as a very serious issue.
A few years ago I was employed to give a one-day radar course to a group of customs officers.
Believing that these guys would be a cut above the average Mr and Mrs Yottie, I prepared all sorts of extra material for them -- working out courses to intercept, etc..
Most of them arrived late. Not very late, but late enough for me to have phoned the boss of the company that had organised the course to check that I had the right date and place.
Whenthey did arrive, the first thing they asked was "when will the course end?" because they wanted to get away in time to watch the rugby. Quite how they expected me to fit an eight hour course into the four hours between 09:30 and 13:30 wasn't clear. Maybe it was their grasp of arithmetic because it turned out that several of them had great difficulty understanding that six minutes is a tenth of an hour, so a vessel that does two miles in six minutes is doing twenty knots.
And then, just after lunch, several of them started packing up their stuff ready to go. They seemed disappointed when -- for some unaccountable reason -- I declined to sign their course completion certificates on whatthey obviously regarded as the flimsy pretext that they hadn't actually completed the course!!
 

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Having been a member of the RYA for nearly a year now (the ICC is cheaper that way) I have actually been rather impressed by what they do. There seems to be a considerable bias towards racing and the Olympics that I, personally, couldn't care less about. However, it has to be said that they have certainly achieved results.
I was rather against their stance about red diesel as I don't run a big motor boat, but I'm not sure that we would have had the workable solution that we do have if it wasn't for them.
As far as the UKBA article was concerned, I found it a reasonable explanation of what they do. I didn't expect the article to be aggresively defending the rights of the sailor but instead giving the UKBA side of the story. It is not a journalist's job to criticise as they report in a magazine like the RYA journal. However, I would expect the organisation as a whole to be lobbying for the rights of their members to be respected.
As far as the statistics being banded about, some of them seem to show that random searches (or at least the threat of random searches) work - if there were no drugs or illegals caught then that must have been because the baddies were too scared. I'm sure that random breath testing would cut down the number of drunk drivers on the road.
Finally, I'm not too sure about the legal position of copying large amounts of an article published in a club magazine onto the web!
 

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A few years ago I was employed to give a one-day radar course to a group of customs officers.
Believing that these guys would be a cut above the average Mr and Mrs Yottie, I prepared all sorts of extra material for them -- working out courses to intercept, etc..
Most of them arrived late. Not very late, but late enough for me to have phoned the boss of the company that had organised the course to check that I had the right date and place.
Whenthey did arrive, the first thing they asked was "when will the course end?" because they wanted to get away in time to watch the rugby. Quite how they expected me to fit an eight hour course into the four hours between 09:30 and 13:30 wasn't clear. Maybe it was their grasp of arithmetic because it turned out that several of them had great difficulty understanding that six minutes is a tenth of an hour, so a vessel that does two miles in six minutes is doing twenty knots.
And then, just after lunch, several of them started packing up their stuff ready to go. They seemed disappointed when -- for some unaccountable reason -- I declined to sign their course completion certificates on whatthey obviously regarded as the flimsy pretext that they hadn't actually completed the course!!

I heard that the cutter crews were taken from regular C & E officers who had an interest in or a 'leisure' boating qualification? Rather than commercially qualified crew?

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Naturally, the UKBA were keen to show us what they did, so on a glorious winter morning we cruised around the Solent and stopped a couple of hapless, innocent vessels.

That is shocking. Let's ruin an innocent day out of two law abiding families so we can show off to the reporter from the smoke. Let's frighten a group of people who are not part of our world just because we feckin well can.

Thank you Comrade Brown, you may your live out your short retirement in interesting times.
 

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Finally, I'm not too sure about the legal position of copying large amounts of an article published in a club magazine onto the web!
It was, in fact, the entire article. If you are genuinely uncomfortable about that then flag it up to the moderator who can delete it if there are grounds to do so. Or, as the poster of that OCR copy I am quite prepared to use the edit button to delete it if anyone thinks that RYA copyright is being compromised. Perhaps the OP was persuaded of that and why the original scan disappeared.

As an RYA member myself I thought the organisation and author were being unfairly criticised - in fact I rather agree with your view - and that a more legible copy for discussion was in their interest.
 

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It was, in fact, the entire article. If you are genuinely uncomfortable about that then flag it up to the moderator who can delete it if there are grounds to do so. Or, as the poster of that OCR copy I am quite prepared to use the edit button to delete it if anyone thinks that RYA copyright is being compromised. Perhaps the OP was persuaded of that and why the original scan disappeared.

As an RYA member myself I thought the organisation and author were being unfairly criticised - in fact I rather agree with your view - and that a more legible copy for discussion was in their interest.

I only remover the scan as i was clearing out stuff on photobucket.
i have just received an introduction letter from Ms Sarah Tresder the new CEO of the RYA. i will be replying to her suggesting a more robust stance regarding the ukba
 

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Wouldn't it be better if we had the statistics?

As far as the statistics being banded about, some of them seem to show that random searches (or at least the threat of random searches) work - if there were no drugs or illegals caught then that must have been because the baddies were too scared. I'm sure that random breath testing would cut down the number of drunk drivers on the road.

I'd like to know how many boardings are truly random and how many are due to intelligence received and the results achieved. Unless we get that, all we are told is the 80% figure, which is clearly intended by the UKBA to deceive. My beef with the RYA is that it has done nothing to shed light on this area, even though the question has been raised in YM's letters column. By continuing to allow the UKBA to deploy their 80% figure without challenge the RYA have become part of the deception.
 

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I'd like to know how many boardings are truly random and how many are due to intelligence received and the results achieved. Unless we get that, all we are told is the 80% figure, which is clearly intended by the UKBA to deceive. My beef with the RYA is that it has done nothing to shed light on this area, even though the question has been raised in YM's letters column. By continuing to allow the UKBA to deploy their 80% figure without challenge the RYA have become part of the deception.

Absolutely right. it appears the RYA are colluding rather that supporting the those that pay their wage bill
 

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Anyone here had first hand experience of a UKBA boarding party?

I've been boarded recently by the French, am often boarded by the Dutch and once by the British (but that was the Coast Guard and not the UKBA). It comes from flying a Belgium ensign (clearly a suspicious character / sucker).

They were all very proper and polite, so was I, and they all went away disappointed.

I was left each time with the problem of cleaning the black rubber marks from their boarding ribs from my white topsides.
 

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Simple A level statistics will show what a waste of time randomn searches are. There is a large population of yachts of which only a tiny proportion is involved in smuggling. Therefore the probability of catching one randomly is insignificantly small!

Look, I know it's Sunday but don't you actually mean significanatly small !! yaawwnnnn...zzzzzzzz
 

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'We generally send two crew aboard and while one chats in the cockpit, the other heads down below to check for booby traps. Booby-trapped boats are fitted with an explosive device, which means that if they are boarded, they blow up and destroy the evidence.

Sounds to me like he's taking something .....it's either the p1ss, the drugs or both.
 

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A yacht, with a pair of booby traps...


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Look at the Sunseeker advert, rumour has it that if you buy a top of the range boat, the bimbos in the pool come as part of the fixtures and fittings!
 

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'We generally send two crew aboard and while one chats in the cockpit, the other heads down below to check for booby traps. Booby-trapped boats are fitted with an explosive device, which means that if they are boarded, they blow up and destroy the evidence. Members of the boarding party have to keep their helmets on as these have their radio communications equipment built into them - just like the RNLI's.

Booby trapped yachts must be very common according to this explanation. I wonder how many they have found? Or perhaps they've been watching too many James Bond films.

Doug accepted that the UKBA did not have general authority to require yachtsmen to produce documents they were not obliged by law to carry but he emphasised that a refusal by yachtsmen to cooperate might raise his officers' suspicions and extend the time that they needed to spend in satisfying themselves that a yacht was entirely innocent.

So that's a threat then. 'You're not obliged to say anything but anything you don't say may be used against you and we'll waste your time and ours ripping your boat apart in the process'. I also wonder how an inanimate object can be other than entirely innocent - a semantic argument I know but no more so that the claim that port limits extend to the end of territorial waters, which seems to stretch the law to the extreme. These people are making it up as they go along. If ever we have concentration camps in this country I think I know where the guards will be recruited.
 

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Don't joke about concentration camps and UKBA - where do you think those refused entry end up?

An interesting start point.

However, if the law on illegal immigration and deportation was enforced effectively the need for all this additional planed (sic) capacity would not be there - indeed it could be substantially reduced. But of course there is no incentive to do this while there is so much to be earned from delaying deportation for as long as possible (by the officials operating the capacity and the legal profession and charities etc involved in representing the individuals).
 
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