rhinorhino
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Anyone finish?
RTI - Get my drift?
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Perry
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The news above says who came in 6th - usefull info
bumblefish
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Colin_S
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Unless I'm missing something it looks like Jeremy Rogers has won again in a Contessa 26. (3A)
Gutted as I was on identical boat and we slightly overhauled him but then he got past us and found a winning line while we ended up sailing backwards away from the Needles where we stayed until eventualy retiring. VHF was a constant stream of retirements.
Gutted as I was on identical boat and we slightly overhauled him but then he got past us and found a winning line while we ended up sailing backwards away from the Needles where we stayed until eventualy retiring. VHF was a constant stream of retirements.
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maxwell edison
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If I add together the number of boats currently shown as retired and those shown as not seen to finish, which presumably means that they retired but did not advise ISC it comes to over 50% of the entrants.
Is is not time for the ISC Racing Committe to resign? It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that this would be the outcome given the start times for family cruisers.
Over the past twenty years or more I have watched this race lose its way. It is now a rip off in which the samller boats pay the vast majority of the fees only for the ISC to publicise the exploits of already world famous yachtsmen.
As far as the samll cruiser owners are concerned it can be likened to buying a raffle ticket only to find that there are no prizes.
Is is not time for the ISC Racing Committe to resign? It was obvious to anyone with half a brain that this would be the outcome given the start times for family cruisers.
Over the past twenty years or more I have watched this race lose its way. It is now a rip off in which the samller boats pay the vast majority of the fees only for the ISC to publicise the exploits of already world famous yachtsmen.
As far as the samll cruiser owners are concerned it can be likened to buying a raffle ticket only to find that there are no prizes.
GeorgeP
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I gave up after fighting past Hurst only to see 1 knot SOG, Needles 4 miles away and the tide increasing.
I wonder what they will do when the entrants are down next year - after all ISC is bigger than IRC. At £60 a pop, it shouldn't take long for them to notice! Then next year their sponsors may also reduce their sponsorship. Maybe they should getr someone to organise the start who knows something about tidal planning.
I wonder what they will do when the entrants are down next year - after all ISC is bigger than IRC. At £60 a pop, it shouldn't take long for them to notice! Then next year their sponsors may also reduce their sponsorship. Maybe they should getr someone to organise the start who knows something about tidal planning.
WayneS
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At least our Bavaria drifts backwards at a slower rate that your HR. Sorry, we were the Bav giving you a bit of niggle.
We came to a stop at Hurst narrows and ended up back at Yarmouth. 90mins latest we are back in the narrows. At least we have our pic on the RTI website. in the Starts section Here
We carried on and picked up a great wind on the back of the island but retired at around 19:00 at Ventnor while making little progress against the tide.
Cheers
W
We came to a stop at Hurst narrows and ended up back at Yarmouth. 90mins latest we are back in the narrows. At least we have our pic on the RTI website. in the Starts section Here
We carried on and picked up a great wind on the back of the island but retired at around 19:00 at Ventnor while making little progress against the tide.
Cheers
W
Cutter
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Didnt do the drift his year but went and sat by Bembridge/St Helens and saw the big boys come by. The early (!) ones tacked into St Helens to avoid the tide and died - it took Ecover 30mins to extract herself from the wind hole. Red tacked out and passed us by 10m as did Chernikoff and Bear. Long periods where nothing was happening - as far as racing was concerned.
I agree with the sentiments that this event is now subsidised by the many for the few - much prefer the RSYC two handed RTI race tho the longer reces are generally more fun with more on board.
I agree with the sentiments that this event is now subsidised by the many for the few - much prefer the RSYC two handed RTI race tho the longer reces are generally more fun with more on board.
Talbot
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whilst not strictly and entrant! I got as far as bembridge before falling into a big zero wind hole. As we had run out of cold beer, we gave up and motored on to Cowes.
Bit easier as we had a much earlier start, but it might have been better to have had a clean hull!
Bit easier as we had a much earlier start, but it might have been better to have had a clean hull!
BlueSkyNick
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we went right round - well almost !
Motored from Hurst to round the Needles, pleasant sail down to St Cats, motored on and off to Bembridge, then a pleasant beat up to Calshot.
as I told myself last year, you can't compete without a decent spinnaker especially in such light wind.
I fail to see why 2 boats are allowed to start on their own at 0600, as small handful at 0610 etc, then towards the end there are 200 at a time. If they bunched up all the earlier groups into a similar number, the back markers would get away at least half an hour earlier. we all pay the same entrance fee, so the conditions should be as equal as possible.
Motored from Hurst to round the Needles, pleasant sail down to St Cats, motored on and off to Bembridge, then a pleasant beat up to Calshot.
as I told myself last year, you can't compete without a decent spinnaker especially in such light wind.
I fail to see why 2 boats are allowed to start on their own at 0600, as small handful at 0610 etc, then towards the end there are 200 at a time. If they bunched up all the earlier groups into a similar number, the back markers would get away at least half an hour earlier. we all pay the same entrance fee, so the conditions should be as equal as possible.
GeorgeP
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I don't mind the later starts, I just want a fighting chance of getting to the Needles before the tide changes. That means at lease three hours before slack water.
DFB
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Well hacked off with this year's performance- for want of a better word. The ISC couldn't organise a P*ss up in a brewery. It was plain to anybody with even half a brain than a large chunk of boats were simply not going to make the Needles in time. 80 boats started between 06:00 and 07:00 and 1300 between 07:00 and 08:00. What sort of cockeyed thinking is this fer Christ's sake. Working out tidal streams is not rocket science is it?? Hello ISC, are you listening ??
I managed to fight my way round the Needles - even though my GPS track showed me going backwards at Hurst Point. Even managed a beautiful spinnaker reach until we fell into a large windless hole of St Cats. This was at 15:15. Spend 45 minutes trying to get out it to no avail. With 7 hours and 25 miles minimum to run (and with tide against later on) this proved too much and regrettably I had to retire.
Not a f*****g happy bunny
PS RTI 2006 bow stickers arrived @ 10:00 Saturday morning (picked up by neighbour) - some 2 1/2 hours after starting. Somebody's head should roll.
I managed to fight my way round the Needles - even though my GPS track showed me going backwards at Hurst Point. Even managed a beautiful spinnaker reach until we fell into a large windless hole of St Cats. This was at 15:15. Spend 45 minutes trying to get out it to no avail. With 7 hours and 25 miles minimum to run (and with tide against later on) this proved too much and regrettably I had to retire.
Not a f*****g happy bunny
PS RTI 2006 bow stickers arrived @ 10:00 Saturday morning (picked up by neighbour) - some 2 1/2 hours after starting. Somebody's head should roll.
PeterGee
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A complete joke. We have done the RTIR for the last three years. After quiting just after St Cats, this looks like the last one.
Last year had lighter winds than this year. However, last year we still managed to go with the tide most of the way. This year we spent around 9 of the 12 hours we sailed for punching the tide, often in light winds. I am convinced that starting one hour earlier would have meant finishing well within the time limit. (As last year)
If the ISC cannot figure they need a least 3 hours for the last to start to clear the Needles before slack water, then I am afraid that will be the last one for me.
It would be good for the ISC to respond. If not, maybe a drastically reduced field next year will wake them up.
Peter
Last year had lighter winds than this year. However, last year we still managed to go with the tide most of the way. This year we spent around 9 of the 12 hours we sailed for punching the tide, often in light winds. I am convinced that starting one hour earlier would have meant finishing well within the time limit. (As last year)
If the ISC cannot figure they need a least 3 hours for the last to start to clear the Needles before slack water, then I am afraid that will be the last one for me.
It would be good for the ISC to respond. If not, maybe a drastically reduced field next year will wake them up.
Peter
mikejames
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Yes we should start a campaign. I think that the factors weighing largest in the mind of the setting of the start time.
1. the sponsors need to have got up before their big fast boats finish.
2. The World Cup messing up another neap tide weekend
3. The sponsors
4. The IRC bunch
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999. The once a year sailors.
People who have boats that take 5-7 hours to get round dont need the whole day. Send them off at 1000 and they will still have finished in time for the party and they will benefit more from the sea breeze
We hit nobody and made Hurst by 1230. We left Hurst at 1300 going backwards And passed it again at 1530 just for the hell of it before we gave up and went home on the nice sea breeze.
The slower boats need the time but they were really denied it.
I have already sent in an email complaining.
1. the sponsors need to have got up before their big fast boats finish.
2. The World Cup messing up another neap tide weekend
3. The sponsors
4. The IRC bunch
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999. The once a year sailors.
People who have boats that take 5-7 hours to get round dont need the whole day. Send them off at 1000 and they will still have finished in time for the party and they will benefit more from the sea breeze
We hit nobody and made Hurst by 1230. We left Hurst at 1300 going backwards And passed it again at 1530 just for the hell of it before we gave up and went home on the nice sea breeze.
The slower boats need the time but they were really denied it.
I have already sent in an email complaining.
Goldie
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We retired without passing Hurst (passed Yarmouth 3 times though, once backwards). Start time, relative to the tide, completely stupid for the slowest boats in the fleet. ISC 7, due to start at 0810 was postponed by the Race Officer and didn't get away until 0835 giving less than an hour of fair tide. Shipping arrival timing was unfortunate, but I think the SIs emphasised that the exclusion zone had to be observed so maybe the emphasis should have been on the sailing boats to avoid the shipping - mind you, given the seamanship seen every weekend, maybe the Race Officer called it right.... Might try the RSYC double-handed as consolation.
derekgillard
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Same for me spent an hour going backwards at Yarmouth before calling it a day, do not understand why I started at 08.00 leaving only 3 hours of good tide we should have started at 06.00.
Can any of you folk with better IT skills than I mail a copy of this thread to the Island Sailing Club or will they listen.
Derek
Can any of you folk with better IT skills than I mail a copy of this thread to the Island Sailing Club or will they listen.
Derek
bobgoode
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We are not a crack racing crew but are as good as most. We carved our way through a large chink of purple flags, passed Hurst and got pinned against the shingles, then went backwards. We retired. Had we thought ahead better and been less concerned with covering other yachts we may have held our ground on the Island side and even anchored out the worst of the tide. The fleet behind had no chance. Come on ISC...give 'em a break..they are not crack racing crews.
Pleased with our performance but p****d off with the race.
Pleased with our performance but p****d off with the race.
Solitaire
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whilst not strictly and entrant! I got as far as bembridge before falling into a big zero wind hole. As we had run out of cold beer, we gave up and motored on to Cowes.
Bit easier as we had a much earlier start, but it might have been better to have had a clean hull!
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Well I saw you! And that spinnaker is sooooo pretty!
whilst not strictly and entrant! I got as far as bembridge before falling into a big zero wind hole. As we had run out of cold beer, we gave up and motored on to Cowes.
Bit easier as we had a much earlier start, but it might have been better to have had a clean hull!
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Well I saw you! And that spinnaker is sooooo pretty!
Solitaire
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I was out on rib all day yesterday carrying one of the official ISC photographers - picked him up at 05.15 from Cowes Corinthian pontoon and dropped him back at 16.30!! The "doldrums" around the forts with even the Extreme 40's just sitting there was amazing - dead boring for over an hour!
I didn't have much time to take pictures myself, but I did manage to get these at The Needles.
Any of you lot in any of them??? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I didn't have much time to take pictures myself, but I did manage to get these at The Needles.
Any of you lot in any of them??? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Talbot
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Thank you for that.
Good to see a few forumites over the weekend.
Good to see a few forumites over the weekend.
