RNLI recovers a Wally MoBo running out of fuel

Just my thoughts having had some involvement in the past.

I can attest that the second you introduce the thought of a charge or potential claim against the person/s requiring asssistance the timeline between calling for help/assistance when it would be deemed prudent and the time when things get hairy or have gone too far increases dramatically. If those needing assistance believe they will be charged for the service the outcome becomes worse when the situation goes pear shaped and the call is delayed.

Often what appear to be minor incidents from the outset can become serious quite quickly when people are left to their own devices, outcomes where people didn't want to call anyone as it seemed a breakdown not far from shore didn't warrant it, tried swiming to shore and misjudged the distance and current, never to be seen again. Another senario, small boat waited and waited to hopefully get a tow from passing boat / yacht that didn't materialise, gets dark, cold, wind picks up, makes call on handheld, RNLI launched but couldn't find them in the pitch black, no DF as handheld probably went flat, boat probably swamped and both lost, all because they ran out of petrol mid afternoon.

When it comes to the sea you just can't muck about and try making decisions which / who gets freebie and who has to pay. Unlike a car, you can't just step out and walk home, your are in a hostile environment that once in it (the water) is incompatible with human life after so many hours (weather and temp dependant).

I would agree the service has in the past been very well funded but instead of knocking it we should be really proud of it, it is bar none, universally recognised at the" best" in the world, crews from all over the world come to Poole for training and what makes me proud is it is not government funded, it is you and me that funds it and we collectively do a damn sight better job than any government agency could ever do.
 
I've never used a lifeboat and hope I never do (Chi Harbour Patrol when running agound doesnt count!) but all the lifeboat crew I've ever met are emphatic about the setup being free at the point of delivery and not charging for recovery of property. One summed it up nicely by saying "we stop duffers drowning, we are not looking for Lloyds Open Form work".

One of those British institutions of which we should be rightly proud.
 
How does this work in practice? Does coast guard decide whether to send a lifeboat, or do they have to do so if someone calls a mayday? I guess the boater cant just say send me a lifeboat, can he?
 
In general it will be a judgement call from the senior officer at nearest CG station or the station dealing with the call. For minor or no immediate risk to life they may PAN PAN for anyone nearby to offer assistance, busy waterway lots of passing traffic and chap has just run of of juice, flat calm afternoon , if someone competent enough offers to tow him in all well and good. The moment there is risk to life or has the potential to develop as such then its a call out. Of course local RNLI Hon Sec or launching authority as they are called now sees an incident develop then he too can in consultation with CG decide to launch. In reality 9/10 times they either CG or RNLI would rather go early and have an easier job than wait until matters develop more seriously, if it turns out a tow job and a bit of a whizz out on a nice sunday afternoon so be it, better that than hanging on till dark and weather turns perhaps gets much nastier and then everyone is working so much harder for a safe outcome.
 
Just my thoughts having had some involvement in the past.

I can attest that the second you introduce the thought of a charge or potential claim against the person/s requiring asssistance the timeline between calling for help/assistance when it would be deemed prudent and the time when things get hairy or have gone too far increases dramatically. If those needing assistance believe they will be charged for the service the outcome becomes worse when the situation goes pear shaped and the call is delayed.

Often what appear to be minor incidents from the outset can become serious quite quickly when people are left to their own devices, outcomes where people didn't want to call anyone as it seemed a breakdown not far from shore didn't warrant it, tried swiming to shore and misjudged the distance and current, never to be seen again. Another senario, small boat waited and waited to hopefully get a tow from passing boat / yacht that didn't materialise, gets dark, cold, wind picks up, makes call on handheld, RNLI launched but couldn't find them in the pitch black, no DF as handheld probably went flat, boat probably swamped and both lost, all because they ran out of petrol mid afternoon.

When it comes to the sea you just can't muck about and try making decisions which / who gets freebie and who has to pay. Unlike a car, you can't just step out and walk home, your are in a hostile environment that once in it (the water) is incompatible with human life after so many hours (weather and temp dependant).

I would agree the service has in the past been very well funded but instead of knocking it we should be really proud of it, it is bar none, universally recognised at the" best" in the world, crews from all over the world come to Poole for training and what makes me proud is it is not government funded, it is you and me that funds it and we collectively do a damn sight better job than any government agency could ever do.

I don't disagree with you - but it also has (IMHO) a detrimental affect on the ability/willingness of sailors (of all sorts) to (attempt to) resolve their own issues.
There seems to be quite a number of reports on mobo forums of engine failure - where the skipper runs on with the second engine (or aux engine) - yet we've had (Snooks counted) 3 yachts calling pan-pan for engine failures recently (may or may not be warranted) - I'm not trying to criticise any individual here - just look at the general picture ... it seems to me that there are more ppl who wave the "Stop the ride I want to get off" flag these days.

Perhaps there should be more emphasis on "Crisis management" in the RYA training programme - not that I don't appreciated the RNLI being there - just I'd rather not (even as a small contributor) see their resources being (IMHO) abused for seemingly trivial cases - even if they can afford it.

I've only called a Pan-Pan once - after I tried to raise help from a sailing club rib - when I came across a capsized racing dinghy who was using the distress wave..
 
Seemed to hear it more often last year, but CG often seems to send Seastart in the Solent- and you get a bill for that if you are not a member.
 
Oh - that reminds me - a few years ago I was on the Club rescue boat, bored as usual as it wasn't particularly windy ...

Anyway - we noticed a Mobo (~30') just south of a known gravel bank trying to anchor ... looked a bit odd as it's not the usual place to anchor so we nipped over to see what the deal was ...

Single engine - engine running but wouldn't put any power through to the prop - they were trying to anchor whilst waiting for Sea-Start to arrive ....

Thinking it wasn't the best place to anchor and no sign of Seastart yet we offered them a tow back into the harbour and out of immediate danger .... which was gratefully accepted ...

Once we were back in the main channel Seastart arrived and took over the tow (just as well as we only have a little rib!) ...

So - despite the fact that they were effectively on a lee shore, anchor holding would be dodgy at best and an RNLI station not 200 yards away - they were patiently waiting for Seastart ...

We were happy to give them a tow - it gave us something to do and a bit of practice/knowledge on towing a larger vessel - and I hope it helped them too.
 
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