Return from Cherbourg yesterday

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We planned to leave Cherbourg 0500 and set our alarms for 0400. At that stage they were forecasting f5/6 with gusts to 8, but later forecasts were more ominent. We were up just long enough to decide there was no way we were going out in what had become a shrieking gale, so went back to our bunks for a few hours.

By 0900 it had abated, the barometer had risen to 1012 steadily rising and the wind had veered to the West. The synopsis suggested that the cold front had already come through and that we could expect fresh westerlies which suited us. I decided to go, but reassured my crew that if it was still bad out there we would turn back and catch the 1730 ferry home. I booked all 5 of us onto the ferry so that we weren't under undue pressure and we set a conservative sail plan of triple
reefed main and 30% genoa, expecting to be shaking reefs out once under way

We encountered some biggish seas off Cherbourg entrance, but nothing too bad so pressed on at a good pace doing 7-8 knots. I was pleased with our sail plan which made her well balanced and a joy to helm in the exciting conditions. It was squally and we were regularly seeing gusts of 30+ knots with the wind dropping to about 22 knots in the lulls. I reassured our less experienced crew that the boat was very happy

By about 1300 the wind had increased so the average was above 30 knots and gusts started to get bigger. On a couple of occasions we came close to an accidental gybe as the seas were getting up to the 4m mark so we dropped the main and carried on under reefed genoa. From about 1400 we were in a full gale and seas started climbing on board. I was a bit concerned that the cockpit was taking a long time to drain, and the seas were now up to 5m with some breaking heavily. Every now and again the wind would drop to around 25 knots and each time we thought that it had blown through, only to hear the banshee wail return and winds now gusting above 40 knots

The greybeards were advancing towards us, and one of our crew took some video footage on his camera/phone. We were crossing the first shipping lane and a large coaster helped by making a turn behind us. Out of nowhere, a big sea slammed into our side knocking us down and throwing 2 of the crew across the cockpit. Fortunately they were well tethered and suffered no more than bruising. We kept our speed down to around 6 knots - much more and we were taking seas on board

She was quite comfortable, and the crew were now enjoying the big breakers which seemed set to overwhelm us, only to pass harmlessly beneath us on most occasions. There was a lot of spray, but the crew were cheerful and put their trust in the boat which was handling the conditiond well

The second big wave came on board as we were crossing the second shipping lane. I recall reading somewhere that the effect of ships wakes in big seas can create freak waves and wondered if this was the cause? By now the cockpit was draining much faster and I made a mental note to clear the drains before setting off into any weather in future

As the Isle of Wight hove into view we started looking forward to some lee as we passed to the East. Meantime, we could see precipitation and low cloud ahead and sure enough we were hit by a heavy downpour and a big flattening squall at around 6pm. By 9pm we were gratefully in the lee of the island and things started to calm down as we headed back into Chichester on the last of the flood. We were safely tied up shortly before midnight, having left the pontoon in Cherbourg at 1015 that morning

The crew were delighted to have 'Max F8' added to their logbooks and did a fine job getting her home. Interesting to note that the two who are prone to mal de mer were just fine

And, as a footnote, the 1730 ferry was cancelled due to weather!
 
Interesting that the seastate was so bad on neaps. Good fun talking about it once you're moored up though!
 
Well done! You seemed to have kept everything under control well and kept the boat driving at a decent speed.

Interestingly a friend of mine returning from St Malo yesterday had more or less the same story to tell. First of all you had wind against tide - albeit neaps - but that does not seem to be a full explanation. A few years back we both were sailing to Alderney with wind speeds averaging between 35 and 45kts - wind with tide on the French side - and he feels the conditions were quite a lot worse. His point was that the waves were not particularly high yesterday - approx 3 -5 or 6m but that lots were violently breaking. He described it as the sea one expects when approaching a beach. The swell according to Meteo France was also from the SW and not that big.

It would be interesting to find out what happened. There was that squall line over the south of England Sunday with winds up to 60mph. I wonder if a localized squall with such winds - perhaps stronger over water - created cross seas that made the Channel so nasty.

Great story and full credit to you for getting your boat and crew back safely. Now that you are all safe it would be nice to know what the hell happened out there yesterday.
 
You have no idea how pleased I was to read your stirring tale, tome. I was due to deliver a boat to Guernsey yesterday, starting at 0900 from Southampton, but I managed to pursuade the owner that the forecast was too bad so we postponed to Wednesday. Here on the Tamar yesterday we had the odd squall but the average wind was less than Force 5 and I was feeling a bit of a wimp
 
Agree with your friend's assessment. The seas were breaking quite violently and on occasions seemed confused without any pattern. I expected some respite when the tide turned with the wind, but if anything they became worse and even more confused. I'm at a loss to explain what was happening as the mean wind was f6-7 most of the time except for a few hours in the afternoon when they were f8+. Never seen such weird conditions in 30 years crossing the channel

I'd be interested to hear if anyone can explain the likely cause as I'd rather avoid it in future!!
 
There was a very large low out in the Atlantic, could it be that the swell from that was coming through with perhaps a lot of local chop over the top of it from the more localised wind?
 
A nice tale of seamanly endeavour with practical information throughout..Great stuff.

As a longstanding member of the Force Four Club ,there but for the grace of god etc...
 
His version is that it the seas were similar to the conditions expected when entering the needles channel in a F7 or 8. It lasted for several hours and agrees with you that it got no better with the turn of the tide. He was sailing a Swan 45 which is a good boat that surfs really well and would normally whizz through such a sea. Apparently yesterday if one had too much speed the boat would go right through a sometimes nearly vertical next wave.

I have suggested to him to contact Meteo France and The Met to see if they can throw any light on this. Perhaps our own SimonJk has some ideas?
 
Excellent synopsis of what must have been a challenging trip. YM used to feature articles like this years ago when it was a proper magazine and not just full of advertsand pictures of how to moor alongside; they always made a great read and you would learn from others. I did a similar trip about 18 years ago leaving CB in a SW6 that was expected to increase to SW7, we were bound for the Needles.
I remember having to put in the 3rd reef about half way across and we had a #2 jib up since CB (no roller reef); we were hitting 8 kts in the gusts and the boat was well under control. At 13:50 I went below to get the forecast from
the BBC and it was now SW6 -8. The actuals from the weather stations followed giving CLV SW8 ! We made Fort d'est to the Needles in 8h 30m which was a record for me and the boat (Fulmar). The crew still remind me of the ordeal I made them suffer but in reality we are all glad we were there to experience a F8
 
If you've got a good story like this, send it in - you too, tome. We are desperate for good scripts about home waters cruising.

We are still very much in the business of publishing this sort of story when we get a good one.

Articles on how to moor have always been part of YM and the percentage of advertising is the same or less now that it was when I joined the staff in 1980
 
Just like to reinforce a point. I love reading posts like Tome's and am happy they are often on Scuttlebutt and disappointed there are not more in YM especially if an explanation for the conditions could be explained.

There has been enough comments and incidents posted about the Scuttlebutt Cherbourg Dinner for someone to write a complete round up of peoples crossings/ incidents and lessons learnt that I am sure would total say 10 years of many peoples Xing experience. Just look at the number of posts from this trip that have sparked interesting responses.
 
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