Results of survey

Thanks again guys and basically what I thought. I did make a very reasonable offer.

Anyone know what the service schedule is for KAD32 and outdrive? Surveyor recommended check annual and full service/replacement parts every two seasons.

The boat was commissioned dec 2004 and had it's 1st service where engine had replacement parts/oil and anodes but the outdrive was just "checked" and new anodes.

Whatever I plan on a full engine and outdrive service, new anodes, belts, oil. Bellows and joints apparently look good so might save a bit on not doinf those. With antifoul and the trim tabs quotes have been around £1500 + the VAT.
 
duncan, would you consider the raw water impellor a std service item tho'?

I've found it "interesting" in communicating with egineers to get quotes, where I say a full service they take it to mean a "basic" full unless I specifically ask for service items to be replaced. Grrrr.
 
each engine has a service schedule in hours / years

most boaters, especially small ones, only deal in years

some items wear in use, some wear in situ

and when, like bellows, you get the service action to inspect and change if necessary anything can happen!

RW impeller is a 600hr item on my engine but in the shallow gritty waters around Poole they reckon to chaange them more frequently. In practice it's the cover plate that wears, which costs more that the rubber bit (but isn't a service item at all in the accepted sense!). At 600hrs my impeller was like new and the cover plate shot.........removing the impeller by the recomended route however wrecked it so I could make good use of the new one. I now remove the water pump completely (and the alternator and PS pump to get at it) which works out as a better routine and I don't charge myself by the hour!
 
Thanks Duncan. I suspect that a few items may come up upon servicing that weren't included in the engine quote for a full service. I'm going to check what this engineer considers full. I doubt that on this boat the RW impellor would change from a 600hrs service item to a 50ish hr item anyway. But I'm prepared for a couple of £100 extra as the services goes ahead.
 
MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE
WARNING! Before you do any maintenance work, read the “Maintenance” chapter
carefully. This contains advice on doing the work in a safe and correct manner.
IMPORTANT! Maintenance points marked must be done by an authorised Volvo
Penta workshop.

Daily, before first start:
- Engine and engine room. General inspection
- Engine oil. Checking the level
- Coolant. Checking the level

Every 14 days:
- Fuel filter/fuel pre-filter. Drain the water
- Drive belts. Check for wear. Change as necessary.
- Sea water filter. Cleaning.
- Battery. Checking the electrolyte level
- (Reversing gear. Checking the oil level)
- Drive. Checking the corrosion protection
- Power Trim pump. Checking the oil level
- Steering. Checking the oil level

Every 50 hours/at least once a year:
- Drive (SP, DP). Lubrication of the steering shaft bearings

Every 100 hours/at least once a year:
- Engine oil and oil filter. Change
- Compressor. Checking the oil level
- Drive (DP-S, DPX). Oil change

Every 200 hours/at least once a year:
- Air filter. Change
- Drive belts. Checking the belt tension.
- Crankcase breather filter. Change
- Fuel filter/fuel pre-filter. Change
- Coolant. Change*
- Exhaust pipe. Check.
- Sea water pump. Checking the impeller
- (Reversing gear. Change oil, change filter.)
- Drive (SP, DP). Oil change
- Drive. Check the universal joint and exhaust bellows.
- Drive (SP, DP). Re-tighten the steering helm screws.

Every 200 hours:
Valve clearance. Adjustment.
Turbo. Check.

Every two years:
- Coolant. Change*
- Drive. Change the universal joint and exhaust bellows.

Every 500 hours/at least once every five years:
- Drive belt, compressor (32,43). Change.
- Drive belt, circulation pump (32,43). Change.

* If the fresh water system is filled with a rust-prevention mixture, this must be changed every year. On the
other hand, if it is filled with an anti-freeze mixture (glycol mixture), this must be changed every second year.
 
Mind you, anyone that acually leaves their belts for 500hrs or 5yrs would have to be a bit mad. I have mine replaced every 2years, and the impellor every year.

dv.
 
Probably the belt tension on either of the belts (esp the smaller one). Or one of the tensioner pulley bearings (less likely). Or the supercharger clutch itself (unlikely).

You can download the entire manual from Volvo HERE

dv.
 
Steve, your contractual position is this. Having made your offer subject to survey, you are entitled to assume that every component on the boat, including the hull, is in serviceable order unless you have been informed otherwise by the vendor or his agent, the broker. The purpose of the survey is to ascertain whether you are correct in your assumption. If the survey identifies any components which are not serviceable, then you are entitled to expect the vendor to repair them. If any of the faults identified are considered to be major, you have the right to withdraw your offer and demand the return of your deposit. What constitutes a major fault is open to interpretation
In your case and IMHO, the fact that the engine and outdrive requires servicing is not a fault that you would normally ask the vendor to rectify unless the service is very overdue in which case you should be suspicious of damage to the engine and outdrive anyway. Similarly the anodes are a regular service item and you should expect to replace them yourself. Strictly speaking and again IMHO, the only faults that the you could expect the vendor to repair are the cooker and trim tab bolts unless you have been specifically told that the boat has been recently serviced
This is the contractual position. But you may choose to adopt a harder line though depending on how desperate you think the vendor is to sell and how much you want the boat.
You could try insisting that the vendor pays for all the servicing costs as well as correcting the faults or try to compromise on the costs
But there are potentially other issues here as well which IMHO require further investigation. A surveyor may carry out a mechanical inspection as well as a hull survey but a surveyor is not normally capable of determining the health of an engine or outdrive. In your case he has found that the engine/outdrive needs servicing and there is noise from the supercharger belt which may or may not have caused other problems with the engine. In addition, he has found that the anodes are shot which may or may not have resulted in parts of the outdrive leg being corroded. IMHO, its worthwile getting a competent engineer to thoroughly check the engine and inspect the outdrive. In all likelihood there's nothing wrong but engine and outdrive repairs can be very expensive
 
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