Replacing Lavac Zenith with Lavac Popular

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The lid on our elderly Lavac Zenith succumbed to various cracks and no longer flushes right. Seeing as replacement parts are ludicrously expensive and it's only a matter of time before more bits break, I bought a Lavac Popular to replace it.

So yesterday I went to replace one for the other, but have discovered a slight issue. The inlet spigot on the Popular has a 90º bend on it, whilst the spigot on the old Zenith sticks straight out. The position of the holes on the bulkhead requires the spigot to be straight. Essentially, I need a replacement spigot for the Popular that sticks out straight.
Any thoughts where I might find such a beast?
 
Cardo said:
The lid on our elderly Lavac Zenith succumbed to various cracks and no longer flushes right. Seeing as replacement parts are ludicrously expensive and it's only a matter of time before more bits break, I bought a Lavac Popular to replace it.

So yesterday I went to replace one for the other, but have discovered a slight issue. The inlet spigot on the Popular has a 90º bend on it, whilst the spigot on the old Zenith sticks straight out. The position of the holes on the bulkhead requires the spigot to be straight. Essentially, I need a replacement spigot for the Popular that sticks out straight.
Any thoughts where I might find such a beast?
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Keep us posted, i have the same issue but it does work, but as the basin drains into the bowl it is now restricted somewhat
 
I am sure my inlet spigot is straight so perhaps older models (pre-chinese manufacture) had them that way. In which case some old stock of spares somewhere?
 
Emailed SeaSure (new owners of Blakes etc.) and got the following reply:
"I am afraid that there is no longer a straight spigot only the one with the 90% bend. I'm afraid that it might mean that you have to redo your pipe work."

I guess I'll have to sit there and rub my chin for a while!
 
I gave my Lavac lid a new lease on life by laminating two layers of 200gm rovings and epoxy on top.There was a crack that doesn't seem to have spread since the repair.
 
Cardo said:
Emailed SeaSure (new owners of Blakes etc.) and got the following reply:
"I am afraid that there is no longer a straight spigot only the one with the 90% bend. I'm afraid that it might mean that you have to redo your pipe work."

I guess I'll have to sit there and rub my chin for a while!
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A possibility? http://svrainshadow.com/?p=283
 
I assume by "spigot" you mean a plastic part that plugs into the china of the bowl and presents a barb for the hose?

If they were the same, you could just swap over the one from the old loo - but Sailorman says they're different sizes. So, which is bigger? If there's not much in it, and the new barb/hole is larger, perhaps you could pack out the space with self-amalgamating tape or silicone (moulded onto the fitting and allowed to set before assembly)? Any chance of adapting a standard plumbing part to fit? You're only trying to connect a pipe to a hole, it's not rocket science.

Pete
 
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I assume by "spigot" you mean a plastic part that plugs into the china of the bowl and presents a barb for the hose?

If they were the same, you could just swap over the one from the old loo - but Sailorman says they're different sizes. So, which is bigger? If there's not much in it, and the new barb/hole is larger, perhaps you could pack out the space with self-amalgamating tape or silicone (moulded onto the fitting and allowed to set before assembly)? Any chance of adapting a standard plumbing part to fit?

Pete
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The Popular has a larger hole in the ceramic ( larger that the flange on the Zenith spigot). If it were possible i would have managed it ;)
 
I had to deal with the same problem this Spring. I simply extended the flushing water hose so it now makes an elegant curve behind the bog to connect with the angled spigot. Could that work for you?
 
Make a drawing of the old seat/lid and have one made; you may be pleasantly surprised how cheap rapid prototyping and CNC manufacturing is these days, especially if you do the drafting yourself. It's just two slabs of plastic(one with a big hole) with a seal groove in.
 
It's been a while, but I thought I'd update on the progress I made.

Turned out the thread the 90 degree inlet spigot uses to attach to the pan is a standard fitting. Found a straight hose tail with the same thread in the local plumber's merchant. Went on perfectly, job done. I did have to end up making the hole in the bulkhead slightly bigger, as the top of the new model is slightly higher than the previous model. No big deal, though.
 
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