Replacing headlining...Uuurgh!

Iain C

Iain C

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Ok, I think I've just worked out why I was getting quotes of £2k + to replace my vinyl headlining. £300 odd in materials, several missing knuckles and about to spend a third night sleeping in what can best be described as a dusty floating workshop with no curtains, oh, and lots of nice glue smells...and the end is still a long way away! Chuck in fuel to get down, food, and of course beer in the club bar and the professional quote is starting to look not too bad!

Still, what I have done (stbd side/window panel) and the new ceiling panels (yet to be fitted) is looking good. If I can get the port side window area and the forward bit done tomorrow morning I have a chance of finishing it this week. Focsle was done abiut 6 months ago in van lining...but bloody hell, what a nightmare job!
 
Iain C said:
Ok, I think I've just worked out why I was getting quotes of £2k + to replace my vinyl headlining. £300 odd in materials, several missing knuckles and about to spend a third night sleeping in what can best be described as a dusty floating workshop with no curtains, oh, and lots of nice glue smells...and the end is still a long way away! Chuck in fuel to get down, food, and of course beer in the club bar and the professional quote is starting to look not too bad!

Still, what I have done (stbd side/window panel) and the new ceiling panels (yet to be fitted) is looking good. If I can get the port side window area and the forward bit done tomorrow morning I have a chance of finishing it this week. Focsle was done abiut 6 months ago in van lining...but bloody hell, what a nightmare job!
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.Uuurgh! just about sums it up ... esp removing old stuff

Be carefull about sleeping in the cabin if you have been sticking up new lining with a solvent based adhesive ......... It might turn out to be a long sleep :eek:

You can use a water resistant PVA adhesive if you are sticking onto wooden panels. Water based so no solvent... no toxic fumes.
 
Cheers Vic...in fairness I've had the hatches open for a couple of hours with a good breeze blowing through and it's fine now. I used smelly glue to do the side panels...the new wooden panels for the ceiling are done with PVA and are currently off the boat...they are the last bit to go in.

When you are working with contact adhesive it's amazing how good those organic vapours masks are. In fairness I'm usually a but naughty/forgetful when it comes to DIY safety gear but someone on this forum told a horrific story about a very bad experience with that stuff that made me have a rethink!:eek:
 
I feel your pain....

It is a 5hitty job. Happily my new (to me) boat has panels that can be taken off the boat should the time come to re line.
 
I've been staring up and postponing a similar job every night I've spent on mine since getting it. Smaller boat with probably only 7m2 of headlining but still one of those jobs I'm convinced promises to be bad and will probably turn out to be twice as repulsive. It had been ripped out along with all carpet linings when I got it, leaving a revolting latex? and backing residue throughout, but as it doesn't threaten its ability to float I've relegated it to page 11 of the 'to do' list. As I'm looking for insulation as much as aesthetics, just wondering what others' thoughts were on using ply pads, camping comfimat foam and the headlining attached with battens to the pads. If the pads and foam are only 8mm thick and battens 4 or 5, any loss of headroom is negligible (what's 1/2" when you can't stand up anyway?). Sure that this method has been posted here before but the thought of attaching only a few dozen pads with adhesive and getting some extra insulation in a boat with no heating seemed doubly attractive.
 
If you can make cardboard templates, then ply panels that fit, then line them it will be a much better ' to do ' job than trying to glue up head lining - which is also a bitch to sew...
 
I quite enjoyed doing the head linings on my (soon to be ex) boat.
Fast, easy and forgiving materials to work with and an instant wow factor gained from each piece fitted.
 
saltylegs said:
yea I feel your pain too, I did a sigma 33 winter before last but it puts a smile on my face every time I am on board.
So keep going and enjoy spending the savings in the bar, mine came in at under 300 squiddlies.
couple of photos at the link but mainly of the rest of the refit, http://s1143.photobucket.com/albums/n630/saltylegs/
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That looks the greyhound's gonads. Well done sir!
 
uxb said:
If you can make cardboard templates, then ply panels that fit, then line them it will be a much better ' to do ' job than trying to glue up head lining - which is also a bitch to sew...
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Having panels would definitely look great, allow better access and be less messy but i don't think I can manage it in such a small cabin. The headlining was originally just glued to the GRP and prior to my ownership the last headlining material seems to have been some thin carpeting. As it's got wooden trim at bulkheads etc I 'm not sure it's really possible to make panels that will fit, look decent and not reduce the headroom too much. The links posted by others in this thread look brilliant. Will be chuffed if whatever I end up doing looks half as good.
 
uxb said:
5hitty job...
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I've never done a headlining, but I guess it's similar to laying a felt roof, very messy.

If the mods are reading this, could I make a request that you turn off the ridiculous swear word blocker, perhaps apart from the C-word *

There are dozens of ways to get round this limitation, and we are all allowed to stay up past 9pm.

* The only word I have blocked on the Bavaria forum, but there you can at least say S****horpe!
 
mikhalis said:
Having panels would definitely look great, allow better access and be less messy but i don't think I can manage it in such a small cabin. The headlining was originally just glued to the GRP and prior to my ownership the last headlining material seems to have been some thin carpeting. As it's got wooden trim at bulkheads etc I 'm not sure it's really possible to make panels that will fit, look decent and not reduce the headroom too much. The links posted by others in this thread look brilliant. Will be chuffed if whatever I end up doing looks half as good.
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I did the headlining in my 19ft Sea Wych on panels, although stuck the side lining direct to the GRP

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Lovely job VicS; think you may have persuaded me to at least try panels for some areas of mine (a Jouster so similar size cabin to a Seawych but has some strange curves). Maybe the half and half approach may be best. The shots from all are inspirational. Determined to get a bit of comfort now!
 
mikhalis said:
Lovely job VicS; think you may have persuaded me to at least try panels for some areas of mine (a Jouster so similar size cabin to a Seawych but has some strange curves). Maybe the half and half approach may be best. The shots from all are inspirational. Determined to get a bit of comfort now!
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They are by the way not only fixed up by the buttons you can see but in a number of other places with Velcro. Buttons arranged to look good. Velcro where additional support is needed
 
My Folksong had blocks of wood glued to the roof, with layers of insulation in between then the boards covered in lining were screwed to the wood... It apparently stopped the problem of linings coming away from GRP through condensation!

Problem is you lose valuable headroom, especially in a Folksong!
 
Thanks for the stories and pictures...needed some moral support! But anyway, after 5 solid days of faff, there has been a bit of a transformation...

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Excuse the **** picture quality...it looks a lot nicer in the vinyl!:)
 
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