repairing sagging cabin headlining

[julians]

Hi all,

Anyone got any tricks or tips for repairing a sagging headlining in a cabin. The lining is vinyl glued to foam and it looks as if the vinyl has just come away from the foam. The foam itself still looks intact and fixed to the grp of the hull/superstructure.

I was thinking of just getting some appropriate glue , spreading it on the inside of the vinyl, then using a roller on the vinyl to evenly fix it to the foam. However something tells me it wont be that simple. Getting to the backside of the vinyl to apply the glue looks like it wont be too hard.

 

[SAMYL]

I don't mean to spoil your day but if you look closely you will probably find that it is the foam that is disintegrating next to the vinyl hence the delamination. If you rub the foam you may find it will crumble away easily.

In the long term the only real solution is to strip everything and start anew. There are many, many threads on this forum where you can read all about it.

 

[julians]

I don't mean to spoil your day but if you look closely you will probably find that it is the foam that is disintegrating next to the vinyl hence the delamination. If you rub the foam you may find it will crumble away easily.

In the long term the only real solution is to strip everything and start anew. There are many, many threads on this forum where you can read all about it.

Thanks, I feared my assesment of the state of the foam might prove to be incorrect, I guess ill take a closer look and see if it crumbles. So if its crumbly im looking at a complete replacement? There are no workarounds that result in a satisfactory long term solution?

 

[fergie_mac66]

use thin wood battens

they can transform the saggy look quickly or on a tempbasis

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...adlining-and-upholstery&p=2337880#post2337880

 

[Searush]

they can transform the saggy look quickly or on a tempbasis

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthrea...adlining-and-upholstery&p=2337880#post2337880

Those temporary battens have now been in place for some 15 odd years, which is the typical life time duration of the multi-hundred pound cost of professional replacement of the headlining. The cost was about a tenner then, call it 20 now - & an easy afternoon fiddling.

 

[fergie_mac66]

Those temporary battens have now been in place for some 15 odd years, which is the typical life time duration of the multi-hundred pound cost of professional replacement of the headlining. The cost was about a tenner then, call it 20 now - & an easy afternoon fiddling.

I think ours has been up for a 7 or 8 years

 

[kashurst]

is not a difficult job - but its not quick to do it well. Good job to do over the winter. The hardest part is figuring out how to get the ceiling panels down - usually a bit of a jig saw puzzle with a mixture of super velcro, glue, sealant and screws. Once down, remove all the staples and peel back the vinyl. Underneath you will find crumbled foam and glue stuck onto plywood. Easiest way to get the old glue off (and you must do or the end result will be awful) is to sand it off with a Dronco Coarse Cleaning Fleece in a small angle grinder - makes a lot of mess but does the job in minutes. Then when you have all the panels all clean and dry and working in a nice clean dust free room etc apply the glue with a stiff brush to the plywood and lay it on to the new vinyl, staple the edges over with a little tension and job done. Toomer and Haytor do a wide selection of vinyls and the suitable glue and its not expensive.

 

[julians]

Thanks all, the battens do look like a neat and easy solution. I will have a closer look at mine and go from there.

 

[superheat6k]

I freshened the vinly in the aft cabin last Winter where this had detached because the foam had failed.

I carefully detached the vinyl at the edges, having to cut it in acouple of places, then scrubbed the back with the dge of the vacuum cleaner nozzle. Th ebase surface was a bit rough from the original glue, so I used laminate floor foam underlay with 100degree spray carpet adhesive, then re-glued the now clean vinyl inner surface to that. The finished result is a soft feel with no hard spots or lumps obvious at all.

I do have one section above the galley shelf where a large bag hangs down with no obvious place to detach it, and would like to hear any tips on how to sort this part out, but I think I wil have to cut it around three edges then repeat the process used for the aft cabin trim.

Be aware that if you use to light a glue it can fail in warm weather, just like Victor Meldrew's wallpaper.

 

[Searush]

is not a difficult job - but its not quick to do it well. Good job to do over the winter. The hardest part is figuring out how to get the ceiling panels down - usually a bit of a jig saw puzzle with a mixture of super velcro, glue, sealant and screws. Once down, remove all the staples and peel back the vinyl. Underneath you will find crumbled foam and glue stuck onto plywood. Easiest way to get the old glue off (and you must do or the end result will be awful) is to sand it off with a Dronco Coarse Cleaning Fleece in a small angle grinder - makes a lot of mess but does the job in minutes. Then when you have all the panels all clean and dry and working in a nice clean dust free room etc apply the glue with a stiff brush to the plywood and lay it on to the new vinyl, staple the edges over with a little tension and job done. Toomer and Haytor do a wide selection of vinyls and the suitable glue and its not expensive.

Mine was glued direct to the GRP deckhead, & had been replaced once before in it's life. Replacement foam vinyl will only last 10-15 years, but I suspect that's an eternity for most MoBo owners who seem to change boats every few years. I've had SR for 28 years.