Relining shoes and skimming brake drums in Sandhurst area - help please??

[Cliveshep]

Does anyone know of an engineering company not a million miles away from Sandhurst, Berkshire - who might be prevailed upon to skim the very rusty brake drums off my old trailer?

There is no way they'll ever be any good until they are skimmed off.

Also I need a set of shoes re-lined - again does anyone know somewhere that can do this?

And finally - is there an emporium for wheel bearings where I can simply give them the sizes or numbers off the old ones?

I have no idea what make of trailer it is/was beyond that it started life as a break-back.

Thanks in advance.

 

[VicS]

Do people reline brake shoes these days?

Lathe here but too far away to be of assistance.
If the drums are just rusty rather than worn/scored perhaps you could clean them up with some emery cloth.

For all trailer parts look at http://www.trailertek.com/

Also perhaps http://www.autow.com/

but any bearing stockist should be able to supply bearings given the number on them. Several to be found on line.

 

[doug748]

A lot of old motorbike stuff is skimmed and relined. I have seen ads for the following:

Villiers Services - 01384 265797, West Midlands

Friction Services - 01179 866453, Bristol

Classic Brake Services - 01663 732025, Whaley Bridge

No idea how good they are though.

 

[Cliveshep]

Bought the trailer and a Shakespeare speed boat as an E-bay job lot Vic - £140 all in. The boat had been driven at speed into something very hard - creating a huge split but I repaired that fairly easily and sprayed it over, re-carpeted inside, stuck a 40hp electric start Suzi on it and it's ready to go.

The trailer is a pile of doo-doo really.

The bearings were rusted solid, as was the jockey wheel. Both are now freed off but even stuffed with grease the rust pitting is so bad they "sing". The drums are flaking rust, not surface and will need probably 30 thou or so removed to get back to metal. The shoes are ok - the linings are worn down. but at a pinch would do a season. That's all I want as we are emigrating to Thailand in 18months time - I hope - so we'll sell it on after using it a bit.

 

[lynall]

Any of the hgv motor factors places should either be able to do it or know someone that can.
Just for info all hgv brake shoes are relined many times, but getting rarer as they are nearly all discs now.

 

[P4Paul]

Does anyone know of an engineering company not a million miles away from Sandhurst, Berkshire - who might be prevailed upon to skim the very rusty brake drums off my old trailer?

There is no way they'll ever be any good until they are skimmed off.

Also I need a set of shoes re-lined - again does anyone know somewhere that can do this?

And finally - is there an emporium for wheel bearings where I can simply give them the sizes or numbers off the old ones?

I have no idea what make of trailer it is/was beyond that it started life as a break-back.

Thanks in advance.

You could always try TH White's Trailer Centre at Arborfield. www.thwhitetrailercentre.co.uk

I am sure they will be able to help you or point you in the right direction.

 

[Cliveshep]

That sounds promising and not too far away.

Thanks

Edit - just checked that site out - looks like they do everything!

 

[Poignard]

Re-lining brake shoes is something I used to do a lot when I was younger, and impoverished. Provided they are rivetted on, and spares are available, it is an easy DIY job. The new linings used to come cut to size, drilled and with the necessary rivets. You could also buy strips of lining material and cut your own but I never had to do that.

These things must still be available from firms supplying parts for vintage cars and motorbikes.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Do people reline brake shoes these days?

They do, but the prices can be astounding. At the moment front drum brake shoes for early Triumph Heralds are unavailable, and as I needed some I contacted a few relining companies. The general estimate was about £100 PER PAIR. Thank god for eBay - £20 for a set, new old stock.

Unless the trailer is very, very unusual I expect shoes will be available.

 

[lw395]

I had some brake shoes relined for a motorbike, but it was rather a long time ago.
Somewhere in south Bristol, they were glued on, not riveted.
IIRC, it cost more than new shoes, but worked better than the new parts.
I'm sure the classic bike trade will have someone....

 

[rogerthebodger]

http://www.ferodo.com/en-gb/Network...ges/Ferodo-Approved-Brake-Reline-centers.aspx

 

[Lakesailor]

Any of the hgv motor factors places should either be able to do it or know someone that can.
Just for info all hgv brake shoes are relined many times, but getting rarer as they are nearly all discs now.

Truck linings will be far too hard for trailers. Probably not available in a small enough radius either.
I used to reline brake shoes for Brown Bros at one time.

Best bet is to pop into a motor factor with the shoes. I bet they are Mini shoes.

See if you can spot a match here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t...DYHTPIShgJAP&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1244&bih=585
Click an image and then click on view page to find out what you are looking at.

These Mini shoes. The holes and slots must match.

 

[Cliveshep]

I don't know what a mini shoe looks like Phil, these shoes have a half-circle cut-out on one end in which the snail adjuster fits, the other end is flat and simply slides.

I'm getting the feeling that popping into my local auto-factor with the shoes might be a good idea though as no doubt one can still buy mini shoes - assuming you are right, and maybe they'll do bearings as well. If not then the other local place suggested might.

 

[lynall]

Truck linings will be far too hard for trailers. Probably not available in a small enough radius either.
I used to reline brake shoes for Brown Bros at one time.

Best bet is to pop into a motor factor with the shoes. I bet they are Mini shoes.

See if you can spot a match here https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t...DYHTPIShgJAP&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1244&bih=585
Click an image and then click on view page to find out what you are looking at.

These Mini shoes. The holes and slots must match.

I can see it now, these bloody ror 7" q/fit wont fit my little trailer drums!

 

[Lakesailor]

I don't know what a mini shoe looks like Phil, these shoes have a half-circle cut-out on one end in which the snail adjuster fits, the other end is flat and simply slides.

I'm getting the feeling that popping into my local auto-factor with the shoes might be a good idea though as no doubt one can still buy mini shoes - assuming you are right, and maybe they'll do bearings as well. If not then the other local place suggested might.

Frankly I would refurbish them as they are. If there is lining left you should be able to get them to work. How much work are they going to do in 18 months? Even if they are less than efficient I wouldn't think the outfit weighs enough to warrant brakes anyway. It's not going to be unsafe.
Flog it in 18 months and it's someone else's problem.

 

[Cliveshep]

Well, my beloved set to and cleaned the boat so well that when we saw it sparkling in the sunshine...we decided to do the job properly. A small company of engineers that have a workshop you wouldn't believe, who bore engines, face blocks and heads, and in fact do any and all automotive engineering skimmed my thoroughly rusty drums for £60 including VAT. It took longer than he thought due to the depth of rust. So a hearty recommendation for Roland L. Alsop, high quality automotive engineers of Hillside Farm, Windlesham Road, Chobham, Surrey as recommended by a local garage. They do crank and camshaft grinding on the premises as well and the whole set up is old, well worn, and most impressive.

Bearings cost £44 along with seals from the bearing shop http://www.bearingshopuk.co.uk/ - still making imperial bearings and the numbers matched my old ones, and e-bay offered Al-Co brake-shoes for £40 less than Al-Co did. For those I might need to resort to the mig welder as my compensator's look shorter than the later Al-Co ones but hey ho - cheap shoes adapted to fit (they were the only 200 x 35mm ones around) are better than no shoes or knackered shoes. At least I'll have a fully functioning trailer. So thanks for all your help.