Registration docs - help!

[RutlandMike]

I'm in the process of completing on a cruiser in Greece which I need to bring back to the UK. The problem is that the marine mortgage company insist on holding the Pt 1 reg docs whilst I need them at the various ports I'll be passing through on the way home. How do people get around one set of docs being needed in two places at once???? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[badman]

Get a good colour photo copy have it laminated and Robert is your fathers brother

 

[Guest]

If all else fails you could always arrange for a legalised copy to be made (also known as the Apostille), which makes the document internationally recognised uder the Hague Convention. It's a kind of internationally recognised notarisation certifying the copy to be true to the original. Has to be done through the Foreign Office procedure .

To you and me notarisation isn't a very familiar procedure, but being continental types who love notarised copies of everything, foreign authorities will immediately know what a notarised copy means and should anyway be impressed by the lovely Foreign Office stamp. Hopefully they will mesmerise them so much that they forget to check your other documents. It may sound complicated, but it's easy to do in practise.

 

[Sea Devil]

My previous boat had part 1 and when I first had her they sent out the A4 sheet unlaminated on a thin bit of paper.

I made a dozen photocopies and presented one of those at every port I visited - Most of the Med, West Indies and USA.

Outside the UK nobody knows what a P1 UK registration looks like.

Another simpler alternative is to tell a porky and say yours was dropped overboard and will they please send you another Part 1... Probably the simplest route - done that a couple of times for similar reasons..

Michael

 

[RutlandMike]

Thanks guys - much appreciated. Buying a house is sooo much simpler than this!

 

[Anonymous]

If you are coming through Spain and Gibraltar, the people in the marinas see British Part 1s all the time and could well recognise a copy. I like Michael's suggestion the best...they must have a procedure for lost, damaged, stolen and mislaid certificates. Maybe you are even allowed a second copy? I can't think why not and it is much nicer not to have to lie.

 

[Sea Devil]

You are not allowed to have a 2nd copy... But they will replace and must replace a lost copy... Bit like driving licences.. It is only paper - the value lays in the registration at HQ.
Michael

 

[chinita]

Absolutely, the piece of paper does not prove ownership - the entry in the Registry does. I think your marine mortgage company should be told this and let you keep your Certificate!

 

[RutlandMike]

I think your marine mortgage company should be told this and let you keep your Certificate!
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Believe me I've triad but they're being totally anal about it. I might just 'lose' it and see what happens. Thanks all.

 

[vyv_cox]

I scanned my Part 1 cert in colour and didn't bother to laminate it, it's obviously a copy. Originally I always showed the 'real' certificate but now invariably take the copy. Nobody cares. Applies in France, Spain and Italy.