Refitting a Seline F33

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Refitting a Sealine F33

Refitting a Sealine F33
Having looked at several used boats (circa 200 - 2002 era) with a view to upgrading I'm having difficulty in justifying spending somewhere in the region of at least £60K to get into the 37-40 foot bracket.
With this in mind I'm now edging to keeping my F33 which is perfectly good in many respects, apart from the fact that I'm not overly keen on the high gloss cherry timber work found throughout the boat, i.e. the doors, galley, cupboards etc. Nothing wrong with it but in my opinion it’s a bit “1990’s decor.”
So I’m seriously considering ripping all of the exposed existing shiny woodwork and replacing it with a more up to date finish. I know a couple of very good carpenter’s/ shopfitters that I’d be happy to employ to carry out the work and would use bespoke panels for the doors and cabinets that had been made especially for the job. I’d use good quality handles, catches and fittings and would perhaps consider using Corian for the galley work top/s.
I have no intention of redesigning what we already have. I’d keep the design of the cupboards and galley exactly as it currently is.
Now, providing the work was carried out properly and the finish was a “factory finish” would this be a mistake?
I should perhaps add that I’m having the upholstery refitted in a couple of weeks time and I’ve just replaced the carpet throughout the boat.
What I’m wanting to achieve is a boat with an interior I’d be happy with and at the moment I’m not!
Has anyone else carried out a similar project? If so, I'd be very glad to hear of the pitfalls - if any.
 
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A friend of mine has a large bayliner 2010 model and loves the boat and design but not the finishes inside. Rather than spend double to change to a boat that has the desired finery (when he bought the boat - he thought the finish/materials wouldn't matter to him - but they do!) he is planning something similar. Rip out all the existing (in his case cheap) surfaces and replace with matt/silk wood finish and improved upholstery. He plans to have additional lighting and a number of other things too. I think the trick here is not to skimp but ensure it is done to a high standard so as to look factory finished, not DIY. Be interesting to hear from someone whos has done it and whether they achieved the result they wanted and for what costs.
 
A friend of mine has a large bayliner 2010 model and loves the boat and design but not the finishes inside. Rather than spend double to change to a boat that has the desired finery (when he bought the boat - he thought the finish/materials wouldn't matter to him - but they do!) he is planning something similar. Rip out all the existing (in his case cheap) surfaces and replace with matt/silk wood finish and improved upholstery. He plans to have additional lighting and a number of other things too. I think the trick here is not to skimp but ensure it is done to a high standard so as to look factory finished, not DIY. Be interesting to hear from someone whos has done it and whether they achieved the result they wanted and for what costs.
Is your mate also from Torquay or is he a member of the forum? I'd be glad of an introduction if that's possible. (I'm also from Torquay)
 
Is your mate also from Torquay or is he a member of the forum? I'd be glad of an introduction if that's possible. (I'm also from Torquay)

No he doesn't get on here - not his scene! I don't think he has got very far yet with the costings for a complete makeover, but he is indeed in Torq. Assume you are on C or D? PM me your boat name and berth no and a mob number too if you like and I will pass to him and explain the situation. Hopefully he will come round for a chat :)
 
No he doesn't get on here - not his scene! I don't think he has got very far yet with the costings for a complete makeover, but he is indeed in Torq. Assume you are on C or D? PM me your boat name and berth no and a mob number too if you like and I will pass to him and explain the situation. Hopefully he will come round for a chat :)

PM'd.

Any more thoughts on this people?
 
Personally I think that you'd be making a mistake. The examples from my web site below show what can be done to refresh the design and retain original cabinets....

http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1239
http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1350
http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/album_personal.php?user_id=2694

One of the neatest tricks is to get rid of all brass / gold and replace with chrome. If the finish of the woodwork is really not to your taste then perhaps a rub doen and re-varnish with a matt laquer might be a compromise (Cuchy or someone would be able to advise I'm sure)?

Pete
 
A guy in Conwy got in touch with Sealine themselves regarding a refit of his 1999 F33, don't think they had to much work for their fitters at the time, he seemed more than happy with the price etc, the twist in the tale is he actually sold the boat before the refit started!
 
Personally I think that you'd be making a mistake. The examples from my web site below show what can be done to refresh the design and retain original cabinets....

http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1239
http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1350
http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/album_personal.php?user_id=2694

One of the neatest tricks is to get rid of all brass / gold and replace with chrome. If the finish of the woodwork is really not to your taste then perhaps a rub doen and re-varnish with a matt laquer might be a compromise (Cuchy or someone would be able to advise I'm sure)?

Pete
Thanks - I appreciate the input.
Nice project - you must be very pleased with the end result
Strange but true! I'm also using Brian Swann for the upholstery and hoing he can start in a wekk or so but he's very difficult to get hold of at the moment.
 
A guy in Conwy got in touch with Sealine themselves regarding a refit of his 1999 F33, don't think they had to much work for their fitters at the time, he seemed more than happy with the price etc, the twist in the tale is he actually sold the boat before the refit started!
I heard that once, they used to send the boats back to Kiddy to be re-fitted. Dunno if they still offer this service.

Pete
 
Personally I think it might not be worth it due to the bespoke nature/labour intensive job that this would be. Many of the timber finishes are veneers or mfc (melamine faced chipboard) which need taken out completely and replaced. The really tricky veneers would be the ones along rails, panels etc, unless you contact whoever made them for Sealine in the first place. I agree that changing all switches/handles to chrome/steel finishes and corian tops make a huge difference though. Some solid surface materials (corian style) can be used on top of your existing worksurfaces (using them as a substrate) as the material is usually only 12mm thick.
 
The really tricky veneers would be the ones along rails, panels etc, unless you contact whoever made them for Sealine in the first place..

The woodwork was made at Kidderminster, the formica ( for a name ) came in as raw sheet from Italy, it was then all formed and bonded on site. Most units were built as sub-assemblies and droped in the hull.

Brian
 
... The really tricky veneers would be the ones along rails, panels etc, unless you contact whoever made them for Sealine in the first place.

We, Axon Components Ltd probably supplied the original dash panels, and we still have many drawings on file if new panels need to be manufactured. Incidentally, we can also supply replacement switches or switch tops if required.
You can contact us at 01977 686550 or find us at http://www.axoncomponents.com

I hope this helps.
 
If the finish of the woodwork is really not to your taste then perhaps a rub doen and re-varnish with a matt laquer might be a compromise (Cuchy or someone would be able to advise I'm sure)?

Pete

I don't think it is actually wood in Sealines though is it? Just a wood print laminate of some sort I think. I'm guessing that wouldn't take too well to rubbing down.
 
I don't think it is actually wood in Sealines though is it? Just a wood print laminate of some sort I think. I'm guessing that wouldn't take too well to rubbing down.

If we did provide the panels, then they will be in lacquered wood effect laminate, which you cant really rub down without rubbing through the image. To replace like-for-like you would need to strip the panels and re-cover in lamintate.

If wood effect is no longer required and you want to change the look, the panels could be refurbished and painted in one of the current finishes, such as metallic silver in either a gloss or soft-feel laquer.
 
We, Axon Components Ltd probably supplied the original dash panels, and we still have many drawings on file if new panels need to be manufactured. Incidentally, we can also supply replacement switches or switch tops if required.
You can contact us at 01977 686550 or find us at http://www.axoncomponents.com

I hope this helps.

A friend of mine is considering a new blue dash unit, it is for a Sealine S28, do you have one of those?
 
Re Upholstery

Thanks - I appreciate the input.
Nice project - you must be very pleased with the end result
Strange but true! I'm also using Brian Swann for the upholstery and hoing he can start in a wekk or so but he's very difficult to get hold of at the moment.

http://www.fairlineownersclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1239

This is our boat, the conversion is still looking good after 5 years, Brian Swann did both the interior and exterior including the carpets, she is still in Torquay over on E pontoon, you are more than welcome to come and take a look if you need, as for the re chroming, it is without doubt the most effective way to renew all of the brass for a fraction of the cost, highly recommended.
For the eagle eyed amongst you our boat also appeared in Motorboats Monthly back in September.

Brian Swann is highly recommended, he used to own a Sealine F33 so is more than familiar with the model, his own boat was all the inspiration we needed before handing him the work on ours.

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I don't think it is actually wood in Sealines though is it? Just a wood print laminate of some sort I think. I'm guessing that wouldn't take too well to rubbing down.

The some 310 / 320 had a solid wood dash, the 330 ,so the F33, had a formica finish. I still have some of it some where I think, shame to throw it away, may yet think of a use.

Brian
 
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