Lakesailor
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LDNPA in the Lake District has gone all positive for a few moments.
The World Record Week is reported to be back on. On Coniston this time.
The World Record Week is reported to be back on. On Coniston this time.
Records Week
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capnjack
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Do you agree with the speed limit on Windermere LS?
MedDreamer
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Sense at last
That would be excellent.
The second part of that article is very informative as well, the situation appears to be just as many of us anticipated. I'm sorry for the businesses concerned but it serves LDNPA bloody right, they aren't just spoiling the fun of a few boaters they are ruining honest, hardworking peoples livelihoods.
That would be excellent.
The second part of that article is very informative as well, the situation appears to be just as many of us anticipated. I'm sorry for the businesses concerned but it serves LDNPA bloody right, they aren't just spoiling the fun of a few boaters they are ruining honest, hardworking peoples livelihoods.
Lakesailor
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I've posted many times on this issue. I think I'm fairly consistant in saying that I disagree with the way in which the LDNPA went about ridding us of PWC's.
I have no issue with skiers or MOBO's per se. It's the dick-heads who are unruly (and uncaring of the by-laws, or other users) who got up my nose.
Most lake users were well behaved and we all got on together. The wake issue was not a big problem, and hasn't altered much now as the worst wash is from the lake ferries (the small ones, NOT the ships).
The fact that well organised, strong events like power-boat racing and the Classic Boat Rally have gone is a crying shame.
It's been like using Weedol to get rid of dandelions in the lawn. The weeds have gone, but so has the grass.
I have no issue with skiers or MOBO's per se. It's the dick-heads who are unruly (and uncaring of the by-laws, or other users) who got up my nose.
Most lake users were well behaved and we all got on together. The wake issue was not a big problem, and hasn't altered much now as the worst wash is from the lake ferries (the small ones, NOT the ships).
The fact that well organised, strong events like power-boat racing and the Classic Boat Rally have gone is a crying shame.
It's been like using Weedol to get rid of dandelions in the lawn. The weeds have gone, but so has the grass.
capnjack
New member
Thank you LS.
Has it affected your business much?
Has it affected your business much?
Nautorius
Active member
Re: Sense at last
I still believe that the ban could have incorporated the records week or the odd weekend of powerboat racing. The fact that it was all or nothing just never made sense.
I am miffed that I can no longer indulge in waterskiing on the lake after 25 years of it but I do feel sorry for those whose businesses are affected. Mine was a love of the lake, the relaxed weekend family lifestyle and it was also my hobby, their livelihoods are a little more important. I hope they all bounce back in one way or another.
I still believe that the ban could have incorporated the records week or the odd weekend of powerboat racing. The fact that it was all or nothing just never made sense.
I am miffed that I can no longer indulge in waterskiing on the lake after 25 years of it but I do feel sorry for those whose businesses are affected. Mine was a love of the lake, the relaxed weekend family lifestyle and it was also my hobby, their livelihoods are a little more important. I hope they all bounce back in one way or another.
Lakesailor
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There are some Conflicting Views .
Talk is that there is a down-turn in the hospitality and day-visitor business.
I would think it's at least as much to do with the piss-poor weather we've been having early in the year and the fact Easter was early as well as the innacuracy of weather forecasts.(we've been basking here whilst the Beeb has been telling of rain and cloud)
The lake does seem quieter, but there's a lot of trade that is not boat-related. It's only early yet.
Ourselves, we have been busy, increasing occupancy over last year slightly and also increasing the duration of stays (and average age of guests) so we aren't complaining.
I do know that our association members tell a mixed story with some planning to give up and others feeling the pinch. Those that aspire to give a better experience are on the whole, doing OK.
Talk is that there is a down-turn in the hospitality and day-visitor business.
I would think it's at least as much to do with the piss-poor weather we've been having early in the year and the fact Easter was early as well as the innacuracy of weather forecasts.(we've been basking here whilst the Beeb has been telling of rain and cloud)
The lake does seem quieter, but there's a lot of trade that is not boat-related. It's only early yet.
Ourselves, we have been busy, increasing occupancy over last year slightly and also increasing the duration of stays (and average age of guests) so we aren't complaining.
I do know that our association members tell a mixed story with some planning to give up and others feeling the pinch. Those that aspire to give a better experience are on the whole, doing OK.
capnjack
New member
It does appear that the LDNPA has been a little over zealous in their push to apply this alteration to the existing by-law. Without doubt, had they just restricted the Jet Skiers, the sports boats would be bringing income even if the weather was a little poor.
Furthermore and on the back of your comments on the weather, the LDNPA could not have taken this into account. For example, the pleasure boats, cafe's, restaurants and pubs all rely on fine weather to bring in decent revenue. In addition, the comment in your URL "Conflicting Views", from a would be lake user that he "used to sail on it as a child, so now that the Jet Skiers had gone he would like his children to use it" is not the basis for assuming a marked improvement in revenue for the business's in the area.
I did see an article and I think you posted it, where a Caravan Park owner was pleased that his business had a slight increase recently, which he attributed to the speed limit. My return comment was that "The Scotsman Newspaper" reported a record year for a Hotel chain in Edinburgh and I wondered if a speed limit was to thank for it's success also?
Do you think that LDNPA should have thought this through a little longer before making a general rule?
Furthermore and on the back of your comments on the weather, the LDNPA could not have taken this into account. For example, the pleasure boats, cafe's, restaurants and pubs all rely on fine weather to bring in decent revenue. In addition, the comment in your URL "Conflicting Views", from a would be lake user that he "used to sail on it as a child, so now that the Jet Skiers had gone he would like his children to use it" is not the basis for assuming a marked improvement in revenue for the business's in the area.
I did see an article and I think you posted it, where a Caravan Park owner was pleased that his business had a slight increase recently, which he attributed to the speed limit. My return comment was that "The Scotsman Newspaper" reported a record year for a Hotel chain in Edinburgh and I wondered if a speed limit was to thank for it's success also?
Do you think that LDNPA should have thought this through a little longer before making a general rule?
Lakesailor
New member
Thought? oh I don't think much of that goes on. They blithely announced they were shutting down Tourist Information Centres and stopping the Ranger Accompanied Walks for financial reasons, before having put out feelers amongst thier commercial partners and other businesses to see if there was another route to follow. Now they have had commercial offers of support, the antagonism they created has not gone away.
They are so secretive about important issues, and yet very ham-fisted at PR.
In addition, as the Planning Authority for the Lake District, they have dragged their feet so much on planning decisions that they have been penalised £250,000. This from an authority that pleads poverty.
They have invented more ways of throwing away money than Elton John.
They are so secretive about important issues, and yet very ham-fisted at PR.
In addition, as the Planning Authority for the Lake District, they have dragged their feet so much on planning decisions that they have been penalised £250,000. This from an authority that pleads poverty.
They have invented more ways of throwing away money than Elton John.